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06 Oct 2024 14:10:14
Reading some of the comments below with interest.

An observation on the comment from one poster that we should keep RM - essentially, the better the devil you know, approach.

In November 2022, both Villa and Saints parted company with their managers. Saints (in the most bizarre call ever), appointed NJ. Villa appointed Emery. From there our footballing trajectory was set.

My point is - good managing WILL make an instant impact. Potter is an example is a good manager. (Not saying he would come of course).

For me - RM will not change - waiting till December serves no purpose whatsoever.

SR - this is a mess of your making. Please sort it out ASAP.

06 Oct 2024 07:39:18
{Ed's Note - Murph st raven has posted a new article entitled, Should Southampton FC Sack Russell Martin?

05 Oct 2024 17:15:20
We lost. Great.

Equalled a record that we should not be proud of but maybe that's martins way of being a legend at Southampton an unwanted legend a losing streak equalled to a one that happened in the 1960s.

This is imo do or die leslee may differ xD

But Martin has to go and we appoint a manager like Moysey to help us survive our best players aren't even in the team and Martin is using arguably the worst CB out of our CB options

Please SR or the saints above show a blessing and get rid of this guy or we will not even have a fight and end up like Sheffield United where they are like 6 points away from the team above in the table

05 Oct 2024 20:09:18
I like how you think I have a hard on for RM Alwaysaint when I don't. All I have is a acceptance of following through a process until it can't be anymore and as I keep saying we aren't at that point yet. December would be a fair enough time for him to go if he hasn't turned things around.

I find it funny when you talk about a record. That record came about from you guys shouting and screaming to sack Ralph. Who that board (the same one we have today) went on to hire Nathan Jones who chalked up that record and then Selles (the guy that same board put in place of him) carried it on.

Now hear you are thinking a) Were get someone better than the board has don't in their last 3 attempts and b) that person would change things.

The reality is moyes isn't that great and when he is at his best it's when he's been at a team for a while but we won't even get someone of his calibre that's the rub.

For me I'd rather the board for serious about who are next manager is, even if that's means relegation, because I'd rather the board make the correct decision rather than forced rushed decisions that have done every single time so far.

05 Oct 2024 21:58:50
Only you les could read that post and decipher the implication of you having a hard on. I respect that RM is a good looking geezer but a hard on is a bit excessive, even for you. Now you’ve made me have to think about your genitalia lesleee and the only thing that has in common with Southampton FC is that they both won’t stay up. Someone should really check your hard drive les and that is definitely not a euphemism. I remember when I had my first crush too les but it was a lady with rather large breasts and definitely wasn’t a failing football manager called Russell. Once you realise that he’s not going to date you, you may finally ‘call for his head’ maybe that could be your euphemism. 😉

05 Oct 2024 22:47:06
Careful Bants.your moving into the realm of personal insults pal to which I haven't.

Try to keep it civil, there's a good lad ✌️

At this point I'm hoping RM will get the sack because all the struggling teams up and down the countries only need to hop onto this forum because Bants here has cracked it . You simply sack the manager when results/performances are bad and then get a new manager and everythings fine. Who would have thought it .I'll get onto the echo immediately and let them no this footballing breakthrough 😎

06 Oct 2024 00:01:23
It’s just really weird mate that you would talk about hard ons in a friendly football forum.

I will excuse your attempt of using a condescending and patronising tone and focus back on discussing football.

It’s really not about the results and performances being bad, we’re all used to that, I just can’t see any potential. I don’t see the need to delay the inevitable. I would like to see a shake up to try and fix a slight fracture and not when it’s completely broken.

It’s kind of a win win situation anyway, if someone else comes in and is just as bad (which in my opinion is unlikely) then it can’t get any worse, it remains the same. If we sort out a miracle and we do the unimaginable and turn it around, it will then be a lot better, what do we have to lose? Some managers unfortunately will never be good enough for the increasing demand of the PL and I think RM falls into that bracket.

If there’s nothing to lose by rolling the dice, then I’m ready to gamble. Go big or go home and see what happens.

I hope I’ve been a good lad 😎

06 Oct 2024 02:35:25
I was just commenting on the the fact you guys keep saying I'm in love with RM hence the hardon .you started talking about genitalia, breasts, man love ect .

But yea back to football. I have no issues with sacking RM. My issue is and always has been this board. They don't seem to get much right. They invested heavily in RM, particularly this transfer window just gone, so even if they sack him and bring someone new in I can't see them doing the same for someone new in the January transfer window. It's rare to have two big transfer window sprees which means the new guy will largely have the same squad that RM currently has to find us success with.

Now whilst that is doable it doesn't give that new guy much wriggle room. Some of them are decent but some of them can't cut it in the Prem. Believe it or not all the majority of players seem to like/love RM, he's engineered that way since he first came in as he only wanted loyal people around him.

For that reason and because I can't see much funds being thrown at anyone new I'd rather stick with RM has long as drastically possible because honestly I think we have a better chance of rolling the dice and it panning out for RM than rolling it and getting success from someone who has to come in and start from scratch.

What I will say is what I've always said that the managerial search should have started by now though. It should have started roughly last season and then picked up again at the start of this season. I prefer a board make right decision and not a rushed panic/whoever's left/available one. I'm talking about the way Cortesse sacked Adkins and bought an unknown in Pochettino. Everyone thought they were crazy but the board knew EXACTLY what they were doing. That's the kind of decision and leadership I want from our board, not knee jerk decisions. Each time so far they've got it wrong and they will continue to do so because they rush it. I say stick until they know it's time to move, whether during that time we're winning or losing.

06 Oct 2024 10:12:42
Whatever happens in the managerial position, I would like a change, the debacle of last January transfer window must not be repeated.
I think if we haven’t got 5 points by 10 games we will be relegated. January window is very expensive so if we’re at the bottom of the league the board needs to consider sales of players not purchases. KWP would fetch 5/6 mill but nothing end of season. Championship teams vying for promotion might well pay fair money for AA Stephens Manning Bree and premier league or foreign teams will chase Dibling Fernandes Onaucha . I would expect Ramsdale HB Sugawara Downes to leave for good money. That would leave us with a really good championship squad to try and gain promotion 25/26 season.
Sorry to sound negative but forward planning is what is needed not delusional drivel being uttered by RM and the board.

06 Oct 2024 14:42:19
Jesus Christ,

Sorry Lesleee I love Martin's beard and he looks like a top bloke unfortunately I do not get a hard on seeing him I just want our club to go back into it's prime days 2016 Southampton was something incredible and I don't believe Martin will ever take us there.

What I think is we need a manager that
A will boost the morale as morale ain't great
B help us survive and find tactics that utilise our players

Like look at Aston Villa they sacked at the same time as us they got Unai Emrey we got Nathan Jones in hindsight look at where they are and where we are.

I may be joining the sack train but if we want to survive he's got to go the arsenal game may prove me wrong otherwise and maybe his skull has been broken and he finally is implementing changes to turn out team into match winners

06 Oct 2024 16:14:04
I appreciate all RM has done but I think it is time. Leave it later and we could miss out on Potter and lose the 6 pointers against Leicester and Everton and be too far behind.

Leslee is right to point out that SR have made a mess of it in the past and it could get worse but if a real upgrade is there, we should go for it

05 Oct 2024 09:55:00
A few pre Arsenal musings

1. The New Manager Dilemma - Ten Hag is favourite in the sack race, ahead of RM. If Potter snaps up Utd and Moyes waits for Everton, what options do we have?

2. Formation Dilemma - Should we go 3 5 2 or 4 2 2 to get Stewart and Archer up top from the start? Or stick to 4 2 3 1 where we have had periods of good play but conceded a lot? Alternatively begin with a 4 2 3 1 and bring on Archer for Lallana in the last 30 mins to go more attacking?

3. The Left Mid Dilemma - Diaz and Fraser have not set the world alight. Should we try KWP further forward and keep Taylor at LB? Does AA deserve a chance there to provide his assists?.Or even Lallana, with KWP overlapping and space in midfield for Ugochukwu with Downes and Fernandes and Dibling in a 4 2 3 1?

What is everybody else thinking?

04 Oct 2024 00:00:19
In hindsight I should have started with a striker. RM latest words! I'm speechless 😶

04 Oct 2024 05:15:32
Unfortunately my recent post has ended up in rumours! ,

04 Oct 2024 12:15:10
Perhaps he will start against Arsenal without a goalkeeper or try to put Jack Stephens in goal!

04 Oct 2024 18:35:14
Please no if Stephens is in goal we might as well forfeit the game or we won't be losing 9-0!

05 Oct 2024 06:27:56
I don’t believe even Buddha will save Martin from Arsenal big guns! Keep On Marching!

02 Oct 2024 20:59:41
Reading reports that Rasmus Ankersen might be up for the sack. Thoughts?

Lavia, Alcaraz, Fernandes and Sugawara were great buys uncovered. Ramsdale, Downes and THB were obvious opportunities and there was some good negotiation. Apart from that, I can think of about 15 buys that failed to make an impact and the overloaded squads have cost us.

If I had spent over 100m on a 1 in 3 hit rate, I would be annoyed too.

03 Oct 2024 19:48:19
Wait SR want to sack Rasmus or have I read that wrong. If I have ignore this.

I mean is Rasmus does get the sack I don't know if our negotiation and players that we sign will automatically become ballers. I think it's just guessing and affordability, I didn't really believe in Diaz tbh and same for Archer I expected to go someone bing instead of those two players someone big from the the championship but we move.

I think the scouting team just needs to be improved that's what could help in finding cheap gems the likes of VVD Mane etc. Instead of selling them really quickly we could build on it and win something.

That's my opinion though, but will rasmus getting sacked help? Maybe?

03 Oct 2024 22:26:25
Yes that is right. There are reports/rumours that Solak is considering a double sacking of RM and Rasmus. Not sure how true they are.

The stategy seems to be a bit throw the dice, overload the squad and hope half turn out alright. We spent 50m on Stewart, Archer, Diaz and Onuachu. Was that well spent?

04 Oct 2024 12:47:46
Not really I guess, it's a shame we went for quantity instead of quality I rather would've spent 25 million for two really good premier league players instead of 3-4 good championship players.

It's a shame because we were involved in talks with really talented players however they went on to more 'big' clubs.

If I was the manager I would've looked at the free agency there are still some good players that could aid our survival also I'd probably invest scouting in the Americas as really talented players are in South America and some move to the MLS so investing in some scouting there could help us find some good players the likes of John Duran, Almiron came from the MLS so investing in the Americas is a good idea imo.

But I fully agree money isn't being spent properly here.

02 Oct 2024 07:39:18
{Ed's Note - Blueboy2410 has posted a new article entitled, Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

01 Oct 2024 16:18:26
So I've been trying to work out what we are trying to achieve at the moment. Clearly we haven't got the current set up to stay in the premier league. That's either the manager isn't prem quality, our players aren't prem quality or a bit of both.
Did the board go out and buy so many championship quality players in the window because that's the safest thing to do?
Our prem players could leave tomorrow and without much or little investment we have a squad large enough to compete down there.
Still no news of why KWP and ABK aren't getting played.
And when players play well we switch them to different positions the next game which disrupts them.
To me it's almost sabotage right now.
We can all see a prem team in our squad but it just isn't getting played so I'm now thinking the plan is to yo-yo from the prem to the championship, cash in on assets year on year and get the parachute payments plus the promotion payments the next year.
Yes that sounds far fetched but this season is starting to feel like a slow and painful death.
If results stay the same and RM is still on charge over the next month I'll start to believe myself more!