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27 Feb 2023 22:18:04
Some questions for you fellow Saints fans. Has something gone on behind the scenes to explain RS choices .
CC dropped
KWP benched ahead of MN
Bednerek picked ahead of CC
ELy picked ahead of Edozie etc

I have absolutely no problem losing IF I feel we have given it our best shot.

south_hants_rich

1.) 28 Feb 2023 16:29:53
Could be looking at player valuation ahead of possible relegation. I think a few of our squad will be looking to move if we go down.


 

 

04 Jan 2023 21:13:36
Awful football .
tactically poor . very poor .
No game plan .

south_hants_rich

1.) 04 Jan 2023 22:05:29
That was Truely awful. Not even a shot on goal in a must win game. Burning my season ticket not watching that rubbish anymore. All I want for Christmas ? is a 4 4 2 formation. Stuart Armstrong on the pitch ad Shaun dyche in the dugout NOW.


 

 

01 Jan 2023 23:11:02
I do wonder what role Selles has with Jones. I know his official title but is jones listening to him, asking advice . because he certainly should be

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1.) 02 Jan 2023 10:19:23
Personally I don't understand why they brought in Jones when Selles has premier league experience and was in my view Ralph's natural successor. To even have a chance of getting out of the predicament that we find ourselves in we need major investment this month. Obviously I don't think for 1 minute that's going to happen but even if we do cough up the cash who gets to pick the transfer targets. God help us if its left to Jones because we'll probably end up with half of Lutons squad coming in. If our owners are serious about trying to keep us in the Premier league we need 4 players who are ready to walk into the team. These type of players don't come cheap. Not holding my breath.


2.) 02 Jan 2023 10:39:03
Unfortunately that's what happens when you sell your best players ad replace with kids.we need at least 4 new players ad a decent manager. We need to stick to how we play best 442.ad stop playing different formation ad playing players out of positions ie Kylie water Peters.hes a right bk that's it .stop playing him on the left. We need a decent keeper buzuma is a liability. Ad decent ball winner to play alongside jwp. We miss oriel so much in there ad at least 2 decent strikers. Adams works hard but he is not a natural finisher. Edozzie is inexperienced ad needs time. I'd bring back Adam Armstrong for now.


3.) 02 Jan 2023 12:10:19
Kwp can play left back. For me when he played at left back for us last season he was amazing and livremento at right back. I would happily play that again


4.) 02 Jan 2023 12:31:29
Think we,re have to play kwp on the left to accommodate livermento. Unless we push him into midfield on the right hand side? I like perrand as a left bk. Naturally left footed ad gets forward well. Just needs to work a bit more on his defensive game.


5.) 04 Jan 2023 11:53:34
What is going on in this transfer window? We need to get bodies over the line. Got 2 6 pointers in the prem happening with forest ad Everton ad City in the cup! We need some quality players


6.) 04 Jan 2023 18:13:18
Apparently villa want rid of ings? Let's go get him! He was quality for us would love to see him bk in a saints shirt. Memories of the good old days when we could hit the bk of the net ad score goalssss. Come on you reds. Let's get 3 pts tonight ad get out of this mess


 

 

23 May 2022 17:14:12
And another to leave without mentioning Ralph .
Broja has posted a great message on Instagram, thanking the fans and players .

Mmmmmm

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1.) 25 May 2022 21:42:04
He was rubbish for the last 9 games tapped up? Or thought he’d done enough? Time will tell should’ve dropped him earlier if he couldn’t be arsed that’s the trouble with loans. He won’t score 15 next year wherever he is. Would rather we played Armstrong who will still come good once he wasn’t staying.


 

 

17 Apr 2022 09:57:47
We are finally seeing the Fraser Forster that Celtic saw. Just maybe his lack of confidence, lack of game time, being dropped despite playing superbly, affected him.
His commanding of his box was immense, in fact everything was immense.
Usually a bit heavy footed, this time he was flying around his box like a teenager!

Well played Saints.
Very brave (and strange) to bring on Redmond so late; particularly as his tackling and tracking back is purely a 'gesture' .

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1.) 17 Apr 2022 20:38:47
What will be almost certain is Frase has a shocker at Burnley now! If he alsways played like that he’d be England #1, but it definitely seems to be a case of whether he’s ‘up’ for it or not.

Still, epic win, let’s try and get into the top 10 if we can. The run in isn’t that scary if we can find form.


 

 

 

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20 Feb 2024 23:28:47
While we all cringed and winced at Russell Martin's tactic of playing out from the back,
It all seem to be going so well with our run of games.
Well, all it took was one decent manager to think, we are not going to sit back and watch this pretty football, messing around with it at the back, we're going to go for them.
And then Hull tonight, a classy football team, moving the ball round superbly.
But best of all, they weren't putting up with our absolute nonsense of playing out from the back at every opportunity!
So Mr Martin, your tactic has been found out.
So what's next on offer from you?

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1.) 21 Feb 2024 05:43:17
Unfortunately this is not unexpected.Russell Martin has been usurped by another impressive young Manager’s tactics yet again.There are probably 4/5 Championship Managers capable of holding their own in the Premier League but Martin is not one of of them.He’s done Ok but in my opinion lacks the skill to advance much further.Hull City with only one recogniseable name (Carvallo) but a well drilled outfit under astute young Manager Liam Rosenior.I would be delighted to be proved wrong it’s likely our chances of automatic promotion have just been scuppered and through Play Offs quite unlikely on this showing.A Home win next Saturday won’t encourage any flags to be raised just yet!

{Ed001's Note - did Morton not play for Hull? He is also there on loan from Liverpool and is a very good young midfielder.}


2.) 21 Feb 2024 08:27:09
Yes EDS Morton is a good player and did emerge from their bench but my point was were these two players plus their team mates expected to trump the plethora of full and young internationals at Saints disposal (probably as many as all other Championship sides combined) tells a story!

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate I was just wondering as I don't get to see a lot of him out on loan.}


3.) 21 Feb 2024 10:05:58
Morton was superb.
It was a clever, fluid, dynamic manger manager versus Martin
While our run was very impressive, we did have an amazing run of playing lower teams.
I honestly think that teams had started to give us too much respect, allowing us space and time to play the slow and very predictable way.
WBA was a perfect example. they just sat back and watched us play around with the ball, moving it freely, back to the goalkeeper, across the box passes!

Hill we’re having none of it. by stopping us play, we were lost. We still had higher possession first half but I think Hulk had 10 shots versus our 2. because the possession was as usual in our half.

The time that Martin has to earn his money,
Now we’ve lost twice in three games, no team will show us that respect. I honestly think teams had them mentality that they weren’t going to beat us.
Allowing us to control the game.
Those days have gone!
What I can’t believe is that he didn’t change anything in the first half when we were clearly totally being outplayed.
Even more bizarre to be playing, the same possession, football with minutes to go and losing!

{Ed001's Note - thank you for that.

I never understand managers that can't even adjust for a final flurry with minutes left in a match. It shows a lack of flexibility that is beyond being merely stubborn. You have to react to circumstances.}


4.) 21 Feb 2024 22:41:15
Call me old fashioned, but it might help if he picks our strongest team from the start.

Just saying


5.) 22 Feb 2024 12:14:12
Millertime .
Stop posting silly comments .
pick our best team?
Have you been drinking?
Next you’ll be asking why he keeps picking AA, why he ever picks stephens and why he changes a winning and settled team!
On the subject of AA .
Absolutely back to the greedy old self, shooting at every opportunity, never passing to a team mate in a much better position .


6.) 22 Feb 2024 21:06:51
Haha South Hants Rich, personally I think AA is invaluable (I’m talking about Alcoholics Anonymous obviously) although drink is the only remedy to get us through this, I’m sure.

Seriously though AA doesn’t have a sharp footballing brain even though he does occasionally find himself in the right place at the right time. He is thoughtless rather than selfish because most of the great strikers are the latter, but if you are able to combine awareness of team mates around you who are in a better scoring position then you become a top striker.

And that is what we lack presently, we never did replace Danny Ings.


 

 

16 Feb 2024 21:29:58
Playing stephens at left back . why?
Playing Charles?
Keeps Mara on and takes Fraser off?
Mara not in the game .
We are way too slow in possession .
We take 1 or 2 too many touches around our box .
Aribo on? Instead of the new guys from
Bournemouth.
Multiple tactical mistakes tonight .

south_hants_rich

1.) 16 Feb 2024 22:45:00
Small margins - the decision not to award a penalty against Stephens was a great help but Baz’s save was a game turner. That was a worldy!

Again, the finishing eleven was stronger than the starting line up. Charles was rubbish and should not start in front of players like Brooks and Aribo.

We got the 3 points and we must celebrate that because I honestly thought the best we could hope for was a draw.

Sending Plymouth positive vibes!


2.) 17 Feb 2024 10:42:57
Forgot to say that I agreed with the pundit who said referring to the two near calamities when Baz miscontrolled playing out from the back that there’s a fine line between brilliance and idiocy.

Couldn’t have put it better myself - the amount of times my heart’s in my mouth with those suicidal back passes when all that’s required is a good old fashion hoof upfield.


 

 

14 Feb 2024 00:45:32
The last games, I think it's too much to say we've been 'found out' . but it has been great to see opponents take the game to us.
They ran at us, they ran between the lines, they moved the ball around rapidly.
All it took to overthrow our possession style football from the back, was for a team to go for it! And to be honest we weren't in the game at all, despite RM, saying that he thought we would win the game?
I don't think he started with the correct lineup, we are a much much better team with Fraser in the starting lineup .
Charles I'm not a fan off .
We attempted to play our very laboured football at the back, but total respect to Bristol, who decided they would control the game and not us!
Bristol deserve the win, 100%, we didn't even deserve a draw!
RM needs to learn very quickly what to do against teams that come at us, especially at Speed.
If you're going to lose your winning streak, at least go down fighting

south_hants_rich

1.) 14 Feb 2024 12:07:35
Good post South Hants Rich, but I do think we are very vulnerable if teams take the game to us.

We probably missed Downes last night. He’s the kind of player whose true value is not fully appreciated until he’s absent. I agree, Charles is not good enough but appears to be an RM favourite.

We lost our mojo last night and that’s not a switch you can easily turn back on. We go into Friday’s match as underdogs IMO. They will most certainly be up for it and it’s not a great hunting ground for us. They are good for the play offs so they will be going all out for the win.

Now the bubble’s burst it will be the biggest test of how far we’ve come. Last night’s game was just that - one match, but it was the lack lustre manner of the defeat (similar to first half against Huddersfield) which is the bigger concern.

RM said last night he would watch back the match several times to try and understand our performance. I strongly recommend he has his players sat next to him.


2.) 16 Feb 2024 10:07:58
You are both correct, teams have sussed out how to play against the RM system. We will find out if he is a top coach by how he tweets the team and system. Downes makes all the difference, a top player of premier league quality imo.


3.) 16 Feb 2024 14:50:10
2408 :
Spot on.
If we truly can’t fully function without Downes, then we need to beef up the midfield until he’s back.
We definitely should stick to our attacking lineup, which definitely should include Fraser.
but we need to give much more cover to the back line .
tonight will be interesting. They’ve seen us concede six goals to teams that have gone for us.
I’m expecting the same ….


4.) 16 Feb 2024 19:46:06
Not my team of choice with the inclusion of Che Charles and Stephens. Neither offer much other than uncertainty and wasteful in possession.

Hope I’m wrong

COYS


5.) 16 Feb 2024 22:26:18
I was really disappointed and surprised at the team selection and substitutions tonight.
Firstly Fraser is an absolute class act, the way he strokes the ball in is pure class.
So .
Taking Fraser off and leaving Mara on?
Bringing on Aribo before rothwell and brooks?
Playing stephens left back?
Playing Charles?
Delaying the introduction of rothwell, especially after his superb performance .

Yes we won, but at no point did I feel we would win .
Our messing around at the back is bordering on criminal. I was coached at a very early age to get the ball out of the box!
Even worse, having worked it out of the box, our forward play is soooo slow!
Why? Why are we risking this? to take the Russell Martin possession box?

To me, we resulted back to that period when we were winning games by one goal. just!
Yes, we won… but very unconvincingly.
There was a period in the first half when we played super football, we controlled the game, but we just didn’t score that second goal….

If we try and play that possession, football in the Premier League, we will get hammered
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29 Jan 2024 19:47:13
Hi Ed's
Question to you .
So we all found Martin arrogant, obsessed with his way of playing .
has literally achieved nothing in football.
Has taken teams backwards . so his arrogance has no foundation

so . what has changed?
Do you think he's listened to people?
Do you think he's tweaked his tactics?
I do think that he has at his disposal, a better squad than he ever had.
It's a strange one and a remarkable run that we are on.
The players seem to love him.
Yes, we are now playing a settle team with a settled formation.

south_hants_rich

1.) 30 Jan 2024 04:45:47
Whilst congratulations are offered to Russell Martin for the teams sudden turnaround in fortunes could this also be attributed to the capture of well respected Coach Colin Calderwood or.is this pure coincidence from 30/10/23? Every Club in the top 6 will have their opportunity for promotion hinged on how astute they have performed in the transfer market before 1st.Feb.


2.) 30 Jan 2024 09:36:41
Heh St John, good to hear from you - it’s been a while!

The one thing I do agree with RM on, is that the run will not count for very much if we miss out on promotion.

I too have been highly critical of our style of play - pedestrian and pointless in the early part of the season. Now, we are playing (for the most part) with high energy and moving the ball quickly - there’s so much more attacking intent. Had we been playing like that from the start of the season there wouldn’t have been the level of condemnation against RM.

However, we’re not out of the woods yet - the first hour at Watford on Sunday (albeit with a much changed side) was a throwback to pre-run days and we should probably have been beaten.

So, I’m far from being converted - RM has changed the way we play but there’s still a way to go.


 

 

12 Jan 2024 14:58:22
Danny Rohl . Sheffield Wednesday.
This weekend will be the true test of how far we've come.
When DR left us, he went on to be Assistant Manager at Bayern Munich and then onto the National Team. This is the one guy that I wanted to manage us.
He will have studied our game plans. He will have spotted every single little weak point, frailty.
let's do the positives first. I am loving the current success, the excitement. the winning! The chase for a promotion spot.
I fully understand the playing out from the back, working moves from the back.
When you watch someone like Man City, Arsenal . they will work the ball backwards, all the while working an opening, playing making runs, players pulling opponents out of position.
I can't help feel that we haven't got the balance right at the moment. We are going backwards from the 18 yard back, way into the opponents half, purely it seems to conform to possession football.
yes I agree it's getting better. but our messing around with it at the back is giving opponents way too many opportunities to score.
Luckily we have had a large run of playing weaker sides. if any of them had a Fraser in their team, we would have been beaten.

This will be our toughest test. DR has created a sun that is greater than the parts, a very clever manager! You don't need my word for it, Bayern Munich and the German National team. now that's a CV. way greater than MK, Don and Swansea!

I think we win, but only because we can score goals and have plenty in the team that can score goals. but if Sheffield Wednesday score 1st. this will be a huge test.
Martin and his 'my way' versus a very clever manager .

south_hants_rich

1.) 12 Jan 2024 19:33:52
For no reason, other than gut feeling, I’m predicting a goalless draw. Hopefully I’m wrong.

I think you’re right about this being a tougher game in reality rather than on paper. They’re also on a relatively good run under DR and will not pay us too much respect.

If we do win, it will be because we’ve fought hard and played well.

Butterflies already!

Enjoy the game


2.) 13 Jan 2024 09:50:11
I think this is going to be a good test.
I get regularly audited in my job, while others hate it, I enjoy being audited . there is no point me thinking I’m doing a good job, if I’m not!
Anyway . i diverted a little . what I mean is, this will be a true test for RM and how well he’s progressing, because I don’t feel we have played any particularly great teams.
DR will make the most subtle of adjustments, not once but throughout the game. Let’s see if RM can spot them and adjust accordingly .
as I’ve already posted. you don’t get to be the Assistant Manger at Bayern M and the German National team unless you have some smart ideas !

Probably the first time in months I’m worried .
but we do have the fire power!


 

 

 

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02 Jan 2024 22:39:20
Lesleeeeee
You do somewhat read into posts!
I am not saying he is not influential further up the pitch. he is superb further up the pitch!
He is very influential, very quick, superb at getting to the bye line .
that is something we have enjoyed for seasons FROM a defensive position!
When he plays at the back, we benefit from his excellent defence qualities and his attacking qualities.

Moving him further forward means we lose his superb defensive capabilities.
The beauty of him playing at the back is he can turn defence into attack in one moment .
Stephens is not in the same league as kwp when it comes to being a wing back.
Kwp can turn an opponents attack into a saints attack in one moment.
Stephens is an ok CB and an ok defender.

We are trying to get promotion, we need to be dynamic, fast, unpredictable .
if you think playing stephens at right back makes us a better side, then you don’t know the game.
The modern day right back is a fast flowing, dynamic, skilful player . Stephens is none of that!

Kwp right back combining with Stuey, Mara, Fraser etc is a superb combination …
To suggest kwp is much better than Fraser on the wing . is bizarre . have you watched Fraser play on the wing . not only is he superb, his crossing ability is superb .
I’ll leave it there .
Stephens is not a modern right back.
He is knowing a quick enough, agile enough, or clever enough to be a right back

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01 Jan 2024 21:42:00
Millertime .
This can be broken down very simply.
Playing Stephens at right back didn’t work last time.
Is Stephen a right back - NO
Is KWP a better right back than Stephens - YES
Is KWP a better right midfield/wing than players on the bench - NO
Is KWP as effective playing higher up - NO

Mr Martin - stop being clever and messing around with player positions .

Mr Martin - another load of rhetoric from
You about should have won - well it’s simple, get the ball up the pitch QUICKER

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12 Nov 2023 12:06:48
For someone so stubborn, just maybe he came on here, read our posts and thought, ‘well if my way is so good, why haven’t I had any success’ .
he hasn’t abandoned his way completely, but the possession stays yesterday, showed a huge change in tactics. Ie we didn’t have 80% possession and the same number of shots as the opponent.

But as I’ve said, all the successful teams win even when not playing their best, and grind out wins .

It’s been a very long time since I’ve enjoyed watching saints and believing we are going to win!

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12 Nov 2023 00:36:15
Blimey. home after a night out to come here and post . and you two have beaten me to it.
We seem to be doing what the best teams do, win when not evening playing our best.
RM has actually adjusted his playing style and tactics, not a lot, but just enough to stop us getting caught out so much.
We are definitely moving the ball quicker, and that holy grail . get it in the box quicker!
I am loving the atmosphere, the vibe, the excitement . the winning!
COYR

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28 Sep 2023 14:31:54
Thank you Ed for that insightful reply. It didn’t enter my head for one minute that any football club would use this interview process!
He certainly is an ‘I’ person. As you say, he must interview well, saying all the right things.

While I’m hugely grateful for the reply, it kind of makes things worse. Surely some research into his managerial history, statistics, media coverage, players opinions, would have meant he never even got an interview, let alone the job.

He can’t and won’t last, despite some ramblings today from the club saying they and the players fully support Martin …

Thank you again and thank you for putting up with our incessant moaning.

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{Ed001's Note - no worries mate and it is common practice to use an interview practice to hire the head coach/manager/director of football but it makes little sense to me. Any club as high up as the EFL or EPL has a wealth of lower league and non-league staff to cherry pick. Why not head hunt the best person for the job, rather than limit your options to who is available to interview for the role?}


 

 

 

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22 Feb 2024 12:14:12
Millertime .
Stop posting silly comments .
pick our best team?
Have you been drinking?
Next you’ll be asking why he keeps picking AA, why he ever picks stephens and why he changes a winning and settled team!
On the subject of AA .
Absolutely back to the greedy old self, shooting at every opportunity, never passing to a team mate in a much better position .

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21 Feb 2024 10:05:58
Morton was superb.
It was a clever, fluid, dynamic manger manager versus Martin
While our run was very impressive, we did have an amazing run of playing lower teams.
I honestly think that teams had started to give us too much respect, allowing us space and time to play the slow and very predictable way.
WBA was a perfect example. they just sat back and watched us play around with the ball, moving it freely, back to the goalkeeper, across the box passes!

Hill we’re having none of it. by stopping us play, we were lost. We still had higher possession first half but I think Hulk had 10 shots versus our 2. because the possession was as usual in our half.

The time that Martin has to earn his money,
Now we’ve lost twice in three games, no team will show us that respect. I honestly think teams had them mentality that they weren’t going to beat us.
Allowing us to control the game.
Those days have gone!
What I can’t believe is that he didn’t change anything in the first half when we were clearly totally being outplayed.
Even more bizarre to be playing, the same possession, football with minutes to go and losing!

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{Ed001's Note - thank you for that.

I never understand managers that can't even adjust for a final flurry with minutes left in a match. It shows a lack of flexibility that is beyond being merely stubborn. You have to react to circumstances.}


 

 

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20 Feb 2024 22:53:57
Ed’s . I turn to you for advice again .
we are playing a very good footballing side, why wouldn’t RM pick his best side?
Please help me understand!
To not play Fraser is just inexcusable . Brookes dropped, who is another excellent footballer!
We were outplayed and outclassed by some excelllent football, meanwhile our best team is sitting on the bench!
Whoever it was that posted about January February being the true test, you were spot on.
RM is being found out . but I’m sure he’ll say we should’ve won

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{Ed001's Note - the only possible excuse I can think of is that the sports scientists told him certain players were in the "red zone". He might have been resting them. Other than that, it can only be that he disagrees with you and thinks he picked his best side.}


 

 

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16 Feb 2024 22:26:18
I was really disappointed and surprised at the team selection and substitutions tonight.
Firstly Fraser is an absolute class act, the way he strokes the ball in is pure class.
So .
Taking Fraser off and leaving Mara on?
Bringing on Aribo before rothwell and brooks?
Playing stephens left back?
Playing Charles?
Delaying the introduction of rothwell, especially after his superb performance .

Yes we won, but at no point did I feel we would win .
Our messing around at the back is bordering on criminal. I was coached at a very early age to get the ball out of the box!
Even worse, having worked it out of the box, our forward play is soooo slow!
Why? Why are we risking this? to take the Russell Martin possession box?

To me, we resulted back to that period when we were winning games by one goal. just!
Yes, we won… but very unconvincingly.
There was a period in the first half when we played super football, we controlled the game, but we just didn’t score that second goal….

If we try and play that possession, football in the Premier League, we will get hammered
.

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16 Feb 2024 14:50:10
2408 :
Spot on.
If we truly can’t fully function without Downes, then we need to beef up the midfield until he’s back.
We definitely should stick to our attacking lineup, which definitely should include Fraser.
but we need to give much more cover to the back line .
tonight will be interesting. They’ve seen us concede six goals to teams that have gone for us.
I’m expecting the same ….

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