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11 Aug 2022 10:35:11
Oh great.now Tella is off on loan to Burnley! Can SOMEBODY please tell me what's going on because I think I'm losing the plot.

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11 Aug 2022 11:11:08
Maybe hudson-odoi is on his way in, god that would be an amazing loan. I know it won't happen though, I think he is going to dortmund

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11 Aug 2022 13:12:29
Ed’s what is happening if Tella is going out on loan? Do we know if there is an incoming such as Hudson-Odoi? Also are we advanced with Lirola from Marseille?

{Ed002's Note - Tella is going out on loan because he won't get many opportunities in Southampton - there is no intention of replacing him.

Pol Lirola (RWB) Loan from Marseille is likely as they fear losing Kyle Walker Peters. The lady who deals with Marseille's transfers is in England this week and there should be a discussion with her.}

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11 Aug 2022 17:27:19
Thanks Eds002

{Ed002's Note - It seems today another side are looking to Pol Lirola and are willing to agree a loan very quickly - see how the week pans out.}

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11 Aug 2022 17:36:30
Cheers Ed, I just hope the KWP doesn’t happen. For me, he’s the most attack minded player we have, certainly one of only 2 or 3 PL standard players in the present squad.

And Tella going out on loan - unbelievable. He’s 23 now, so should be approaching the best form of his career. If only he was given a decent run.

I just don’t see how we’re going to get to 40 points without the likes of KWP and Tella, fit and available.

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10 Aug 2022 22:35:38
What are your guys thoughts on the fans forum, if you got the chance to listen in.

Ralph's argument about why he swapped formations has really had me scratching my head.

When a fan questioned why we've scrapped 4-2-2-2 to a 5 atb. Ralph's response was all about protecting the new players and not rush them into his advanced system. Which when I first heard the response, I agreed with the justification.

However, after reflection this makes no sense. Why would you completely change your philosophy because you've signed a couple of new youngsters? A system that he's supposedly spent his entire time writing a book about the tactics of which the club want to be their continuous identity. A system that you've worked on with the current team for 3+ years.

Surely it would be easier if we embedded the new players at a later date. Also, the fact that he would think the new players wouldn't be able to adapt to his system is worrying if their supposedly suppose to be the best youngsters in world football.

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10 Aug 2022 23:06:20
Tbh it is a stretch to say that he played 5-3-2 at the weekend anyway.

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11 Aug 2022 09:50:47
One of the disappointments, irrespective of formation is that we used to be highly effective without the ball. Players knew when to press and when not to, and there was a general understanding of each others’ roles.

Now we are easy to pick off with or without the ball and teams slice through our midfield as if it’s non existent.

Worse of all is when we try and play the ball out from the back…. 3 or 4 hesitant passes before we invariably lose the ball before we’ve got to the halfway line. Whilst I appreciate the way Man City and the likes master the art of building from the back, I think our boys need to know their limitations.

So my take is that I agree with you Saintjay - you don’t change a system to accommodate a couple of newbies (unless they’re world beaters) and Llamedossaint you’re spot on. There was no obvious formation or system - we just spent the afternoon chasing shadows.

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11 Aug 2022 09:53:23
I listened to it and there was some very vaild points rasied but I felt we didn't seem to get actual answers to the whole question being asked. One guy mentioned not having any players in the squad that are leaders or commanding types.

I have said for many years we need a midfielder that would shout at the rest of the team when needed, take the bull by the horns when, a commanding character like a Roy Keane for example. We seem to have a squad full of quite types and our scouting has been like that for years. We need some players that are not afraid to shout out at the rest of the team, especially when we have so many youngsters being intergrated into the side.

There wer at least 3 questions about playing players out of posistion that were not really answered by Ralph, the only one he answered was the one about Djnepo at left wing back because of injury he doesn't have many options. He could have still play KWP at left wing back. But what about all the other players? Valerie, Djnepo, Armstrong. no answers to those.

What really annoyed me though was when Martin Semmens suggested that the fans need to get behind the team more! and if we are not shouting for the team how can we expect the players to try hard.

Are you Joking mate! 1:) we have bloody amazing fans that shout for the team when we are getting dicked 0 - 9 at home! and 2:) those players are getting paid stupid ammounts of money that us as supporters could only dream of! Even if we are sat there in silence we expect the players to put everything into every game and respect the shirt they are wearing!

For me Semmens got that one totally wrong and he made himself look an idiot, there where a few rumblings in the crowd when he made that statement!

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11 Aug 2022 11:42:41
OMG - did Semmens really say that?

That is the biggest insult I’ve heard yet. How dare he say such a thing - outrageous. I’m sitting here livid.

Like most fans, I can accept that many of our players lack ability at PL level but to not put a shift in because the players don’t feel the fans are behind them is unforgivable. Anyone who doesn’t give 100% (and some) should be out the door - end of.

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11 Aug 2022 12:36:34
@Millertime Go on the Southampton channel on Youtube and listen to the fans forum, the comment from Semmens is right near the end

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11 Aug 2022 14:15:28
I agree 100% with you. You could tell by Ralph's reaction that he agreed with the fan who asked the question. You need leaders to help imbed the new young players in.

Again we've never really replaced Jose Fonte. He was a true leader, a very composed CB.

I think Semmens lost a lot of respect of the fans yesterday. That comment was a massive insult.

I don't go to matches because I don't live in the area. But when watching Southampton on TV, St Mary's always seems buzzing, constantly singing "oh when the saints" throughout the match. The away fans are always full of noise as well.

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11 Aug 2022 15:31:41
As I mentioned on another thread, playing more defensive players doesn’t necessarily equate to fewer goals conceded when we are conceding goals due to individual errors on a weekly basis. I don’t see us beating any team right now, we seem so easy to play against, and Ralph is too stubborn to change his mind now.

I expect we’ll be in the bottom three at the ‘winter break’ and he won’t be there post-World Cup.

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11 Aug 2022 19:48:26
SaintGGsy I personally think that he'll be gone before then

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07 Aug 2022 22:30:09
Is it me, or do we want Ralph out? :)

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09 Aug 2022 10:45:52
I peronally think when the manager plays players out of posistion all the time you have a major problem. I think Ralph has 6 games to prove himself. I think he will be the first manager to get the sack and then Gerrard depending on results.

For me in the 4 years he has been at the helm we have gone backwards. Of course he hasn't had a lot to spend but he knew this when he signed his contract, I get there are other contributing factors also but still.

For me he hasn't developed players like he said he would do. Redmond is the prime example, I thought he would make Redmond a much better attacking player but he has regressed as a player, not improved.

Same with Djenepo, when we signed him he scored a couple of really good goals and looked like a quality signing but again I don't think Ralph and the coaches have managed/coached him properly and he has also regressed as a player.

Ralp has now had some decent investment in the first team and if we get another couple of player through the door (a Striker please) and maybe a winger and central defender then he can't really moan. Unfortunatly I do think his time will be up unless we can start putting in some performances and getting some wins/points on the board.

For me we have to beat Leeds at home on saturday and if we don't I think we have an idea of where we are. IF we loose that one I don't see many points coming our way and ultimatley that means the manager has to go!

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09 Aug 2022 11:52:50
You are absolutely correct, think KWP is the only squad member who has improved in the last 2 years.

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09 Aug 2022 12:23:59
KWP was already a quality player, he simply needed to play to show his quality

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09 Aug 2022 17:49:52
Why do a lot of fans feel he has 6 games to prove himself? He's had 159 games already I think we all know what were getting.

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09 Aug 2022 19:52:27
I have no idea what has kept Ralph in a job?
It’s not like we are playing entertaining football and unluckily losing. We are playing awful football, with no pattern of play, no obvious tactics, no adjustment when losing, poor substitutions, poor starting lineups, poor player management, poor team selection.
Even worse, Ralph has learning absolutely nothing from his mistakes?

Southampton has gone backwards, in every way!
He stills continues to tinker, he continues with favourites, players out of positions . and the most bizarre substitutions I’ve ever seen!

The fact he considers Djenepo worthy of a starting spot at left wing back is bordering on The Twilight Zone! Any one that ever played football at any level, or for that matter any sport where marking and positional play matters, can see I’m 5 minutes that he has no idea of how to track a player, mark a player or have any positional sense. He leaves Che on the bench and then brings on Stuey? So now we are losing and playing with no recognised attacker.
He buys a new holding midfielder but then decides he doesn’t want to drop Romeu but instead, make Romeu the new box to box player? With some comment about Romeu knowing how to score? Really? Is that the same Romeu that is pretty awful at shooting and heading?

So now instead of having a more dynamic midfield, we have three holding midfielders on the pitch. The most dynamic being confined to doing that job, while JWP and Romeu play the same ol football!

I give up . Ralph is a blagger! He is not an epl manager and should have gone ages ago!
There is nothing in what I’ve seen this season or last that changes my mind,

I watch other teams sign superb players, playmakers, goalscorers .
We are now that team that was the also ran . and I hate seeing our team destroyed by one man and his narcissistic ego . Ralph please leave

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09 Aug 2022 23:12:01
@SaintKenny I say 6 games because we have new owners that have invested and they are going to give Ralph a chance with new coaches and players and I suspect that if after 6 or so games we haven’t managed to get a single point on the board they will look to not totally waste the investment and release Ralph of his job to the joy of many Saints supporters. 6 games is just an educated guess really

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10 Aug 2022 09:32:46
Anyone think we can tempt Poch back?

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10 Aug 2022 10:34:48
OMG Manny561 I was thinking the same thing yesterday, would be amazing but unlikley I would think : (

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10 Aug 2022 09:26:04
I agree. I think we've given Ralph the benefit of the doubt towards last season. With the promise of a summer transfer window where he can bring in some real talent.

Like you say He's got no excuses anymore. I'm sure the new ownership with their model will be touting possible replacements.

It's the fan forum tonight, so curious to see how the fans there react to the club. I don't think any fan is happy with the trajectory that the club is heading atm.

Lots of positive signings over the summer, lots of potential. But we need the right management and coaching to harness this potential.

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10 Aug 2022 11:34:01
Wouldn't surprise me if he pushed to sign Long on loan. I can't pathom his decision making at the moment.

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10 Aug 2022 16:32:57
Just reading that the club are no longer interested in selling Che, Ralph wanted to sell. Thinking the board are expecting Ralph to be gone sooner rather than later. Bad fans forum tonight and a loss to Leeds at the weekend and he might be gone, still giving a new manager a little time in the transfer window.

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10 Aug 2022 17:09:05
Could we really dream of seeing the Poch back? I agree with some of the comments, we are not playing good football, the team seem to be unsure of there roles and RH seems to react to the previous game, rather than the upcoming.

His outspoken comments about the team and the apparent freezing out of some players are not conducive to good morale or playing for the manager and the team. with so many runs of poor form, including current, and this failure to acknowledge responsibility, I don't understand why is still there.

If the transfer rumours are anywhere true, he doesn't appear to have the ability to convince his fellow countrymen to join him at St Marys! the way we are playing.nobody will want to fill these positions!

As a saint, it's never going to be an easy ride, but I fear for us this season, unless something changes quickly

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10 Aug 2022 20:42:50
After watching the forum I'm even less optimistic about the season than I was before Ralph and semmens would make great politician's they managed to dodge every question

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11 Aug 2022 15:36:19
Sorry guys but Poch absolutely would not come back to Saints. He’ll be at the next big club who sack their manager. Current best options are Marco Rose, Paulo Sousa or Rafa. Even then they’re unlikely.

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05 Aug 2022 13:43:30
Nottingham Forest in talks with Saints over Che Adams? Can't understand why Saints would want to sell him as I think we're still short up front

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05 Aug 2022 15:10:00
I certainly hope they have a striker ready to replace Che. Linked with strikers galore but hey ho .

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08 Aug 2022 15:30:24
If we do sell Che we can only do that having a new striker coming in through the door, as in the deal is imminent, surely? and then we still need another striker after that just to be where we were last season with 4 options.

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10 Aug 2022 11:12:01
Whether or not it is the right decision to let Che leave during this window is one we may regret without properly exploring the extended combinations with both Mara and Adam and maybe all 3 in certain Home Games- providing Ralph is capable of putting an attacking Midfield together in support.It bothers me that maybe our strikers are not being utilised for their most effective potential (especially considering other EPL Managers have identified something about Che that Ralph has not).

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28 Jul 2022 23:02:28
I've heard from inside the club that Delap deal is progressing and should be concluded within a week - fee will be around £24M and Citeh insisting on a buy back clause.m

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31 Jul 2022 19:57:15
@Eggy apparently Delap is going to Stoke. They are in advanced talks

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01 Aug 2022 11:14:48
So who are we now looking at realistically? Is there any truth in Che to Leeds? Ed’s please advise

{Ed002's Note - Che Adams (S) Leeds have declared an interest in Adams but I am not aware of any offer yet.}

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01 Aug 2022 14:55:29
Thanks as ever ED002

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26 Jul 2022 11:40:56
Hi Ed
I read that we've spoken to Emmanuel Dennis' agent.
Do you know whether this is just his agent touting him around or if we have genuine interest?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any Southampton interest in him.}

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26 Jul 2022 13:07:23
Thanks, like 99% of rumours then 😂

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27 Jul 2022 16:39:18
Apparently we are after Puki now as well LOL. Agents doing there thing, they are spreading these rumours, no way will we go for Puki and I imagine club will want north of 20 mill for Dennis so that won't happen

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24 Jul 2022 11:32:04
Just reading we have put a offer in for Liam Delap worth up to 30m. Any truth in this?

{Ed002's Note - I think the offer was a lot less than that. It has been rejected.}

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24 Jul 2022 21:22:38
No surprise to see that pep is willing to let two defensive players come to us, with buy back clause, as they'll get plenty of practice. But not an attacker who will probably not benefit from being with us.

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21 Jul 2022 10:46:23
Sekou Mara there's a name never heard of before.Sounds good on paper let's hope he can do it on the pitch

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21 Jul 2022 12:09:35
Seems like this is happening

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21 Jul 2022 21:55:06
Alot of interest from other clubs so another young prospect who could turn out to be another shrewd
move!

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22 Jul 2022 09:33:39
The papers are saying there is interest from other clubs but I always think its agents talking up a move. Why has no one else put an offer in. Anway we have to trust in the scouting and hope he is the wonder kid that I have seen written. We still need a proven goal scorer though!

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22 Jul 2022 17:25:17
No one had heard of broja this time last year,yet a vast majority of fans think he was the answer. Not sure myself 6 goals in 32 matches, Armstrong scored 2 in 23. I know there's the potential aspect but both were in a new league with a new team. Hopefully Armstrong will prove a few wrong this season. Hard typing with fingers crossed!

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17 Jul 2022 21:37:11
Am I the only one thinking we should be doing everything we possibly can to get Maxwell Cornet through the door? The lad is insane. He's got real quality, flair, great pace and his work rate is off the charts. We could do with strengthening on the wing too. Would love to see Saints really go for him but I'm confused as to why they're showing no interest as far as any of us are aware

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18 Jul 2022 17:26:08
He definitely should be on the radar!

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18 Jul 2022 23:21:56
Agreed. Probably a bit too much money (from what you read) and at the upper end of the age scale compared to how Saints normally do business, as well as the focus hopefully being on out and out strikers, but he's the sort of player you'd like to think we'd go for. Let's see.

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14 Jul 2022 19:14:35
Hi EDS. keep the good work up.
do you have any strong rumours of any striker we could be seriously linked with? only 4 weeks to go and getting anxious.

Many thanks

{Ed002's Note - Liam Delap (S) German sides will continue to try and cherry-pick the best of the best young British players after their success with players like Sancho, Bellingham and Musiala. Delap is on the list for Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund as well as RBS. Burnley and Southampton offer realistic options in England. Manchester City may refuse a sale but may offer a loan.
Moussa Dembele (S) Will go for good in the summer if Lyon get their way - but they may not. Fenerbahce would like to take him to Turkey. Southampton has a declared interest. Agent is offering him around but the player may look to run his contract down.}

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15 Jul 2022 13:18:41
Thanks very much . Top team

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18 Jul 2022 11:02:32
Hi Ed’s,
On the striker front, keep seeing us linked to Kalajdzic, any truth in this? Big, strong and good in the air - a Pelle or Crouch type would be good.

Thanks as always

{Ed002's Note - Sasa Kalajdzic (S) Stuttgart will push for him to sign a new contract. Agent has offered him to Brighton, Roma and Spurs - as they did last summer to Chelsea and Crystal Palace - and probably many other clubs. Bayern Munich are keen on the player but have a preferred target. The same is true of Borussia Dortmund.}

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13 Jul 2022 15:58:06
approach made for Jarik Kloc of Lech Poznan good prospect

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15 Jul 2022 08:33:17
Who? I've never heard of him

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10 Jul 2022 22:25:13
Hi eds Any information on Southamptons interest in Moussa Dembele from Lyon. Apparently could go for a rumoured £10mil?

{Ed002's Note - Moussa Dembele (S) Will go for good in the summer if Lyon get their way - but they may not. Fenerbahce would like to take him to Turkey. Southampton has a declared interest. Agent is offering him around but the player may look to run his contract down.}

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11 Jul 2022 13:10:15
Our offer has already been rejected by the club and apparently also by the player. He only wants to sign for a big club or stay at Lyon

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11 Jul 2022 15:47:56
Well that will be that then. Shame

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10 Jul 2022 22:27:59
Am I late to the party on the news that Saints are interested in Moussa Dembele?
Now he is a 20 goal a season forward IMO and along with Aribo we could look quite strong in attack.
At a cut price 10 mil (he's only 26) this could be the sort of quality we're all hoping for.
I just have this horrible feeling that one of you guys are going to bring me down to earth by saying he's off to Newcastle or wherever!

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16 Jul 2022 19:29:42
Biggest worry if we got him is he could turn out to be similar to Osvaldo, great player who believes he is above us.

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09 Jul 2022 10:18:06
anyone seen this belgian lad play? been linked to a few clubs including saints. also hearing young winger Chris Conroy from tranmere may be coming on board and being loaned straight back. one for the future possibly

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06 Jul 2022 09:39:28
Joe Aribo to sign from Rangers, looks a tidy midfielder, watched him a bit at Charlton and looked a great player. Has done very well with Rangers, £6m rising to £10m with add ons, high % sell on fee to Rangers if/when we sell him. Salisu to sign a new contract very soon. Looks like Bednarek will be the CB to move on, I guess keeping Stephens and selling Bednarek will free up some funds but still allows us to have a fairly experienced back up. Would like to see us linked with a few more attacking players. Would love to see Adamu or Madueke but think the latter would be pushing for a move slightly higher up the table. Still plenty of time left but an attacker sooner rather than later would be good so they can have a pre season.

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06 Jul 2022 11:34:35
@mlt7 agreed, we need at least 2 strikers in and ASAP! I keep hearing we are readying an offer for Neco Williams @20 million. Not sure how true that is, I personally think we have enough cover in that area. Strikers please Southampton!

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06 Jul 2022 12:19:16
Seen a lot of reports this morning that we are in for Charles De Ketelaere who can play CAM Winger and ST. Not sure how true it is as it needs to be a £30+ deal.

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06 Jul 2022 13:15:47
While I think we may need a striker,I also think we need more creativity in central midfield, someone who breaks the lines and runs past the striker. Think any striker would struggle with us at the moment.

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06 Jul 2022 14:39:16
Would love to see Tino moved into midfield . he certainly would add a lot to midfield

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06 Jul 2022 15:35:26
@SaintKenny - May need a striker? Are you joking? we currently only have Che Adams and 2 goal a season Adam Armstong in the first team and below that next in line would be Dan Nlundulu who has just gone out on loan. We have to sign strikers 100 percent, no questions. We have all but confimed Rangers Aribo so there's your creative midfielder.No onto the strikers please Southampton.

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06 Jul 2022 17:19:20
Great singed a player who got 5 assists in the Scottish league last season! Think we still need more, and hopefully giving the strikers we have better service they can get double figures.

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06 Jul 2022 19:02:40
Saintkenny 8 goals and 6 assists isn’t a bad return from someone playing centre mid

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07 Jul 2022 15:34:01
Exactly SaintySaintSaint, strikers are now our 100 percent priority!

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08 Jul 2022 21:56:05
Charles de Ketelaere will be joining AC Milan I believe. Think Liam Delap is a target for us, while I agree with the strategy of signing youngsters for smaller fee’s for then sell on for big profit from a business point of view, they need to remember that this is the Premier League, it can chew you up and spit you out at any time. We need to start signing experienced players too. Delap, Che and A. Armstrong aren’t going to keep us up unfortunately. Delap and a more experienced striker is a must. Issa Kabore of Manchester City is another youngster we’re being linked too. RB, spent last season on loan at Troyes. Apparently Nottingham Forest had a £17m bid rejected for him and are now focusing their attention on Neco Williams from Liverpool. I personally wouldn’t mind taking a punt on someone like Emmanuel Dennis from Watford, at least we know he can score in the Premier League! Be interesting to see how Mr. Shields gets on over the next week or two in his new role, hopefully he realises that experience is needed within this very young squad. We really really need a attacking midfielder, we’ve never really replaced Dusan Tadic, I know he was a frustrating character at times but my god could he be a game changer when he showed up. Another Dusan please Mr. Shields!

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09 Jul 2022 22:06:37
Thanks mlt7 for update.
Is it just me or do others rate Dan Nlundulu whose gone out on loan to Cheltenham Town?
I’ve always thought he looked a handful (in a Broja sort of way) and had the potential to do well. He’s 23, physically tall, strong and I think would be worth a place on our bench certainly in front of one or two others we could all name.
Maybe the loan is his last chance to prove himself.
Maybe I’m just a lousy judge of forwards - I didn’t rate Shearer much in his first full season as a youngster at Saints!

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