12 May 2026 16:39:30
Looks like I might have called it.

Apparently there is suspicion several other championship teams we've played have had their training observed by us.

Man, I hate being right.

This is why I was saying about Tonda and how it wasn't his team and was getting massive uncanny success with something that was Will Stills.

It didn't add up to me that so much improvement could happen from so little change, especially with such a young inexperienced manager.

Again, I'm not saying all the accusations are entirely true, but them again they might only be the tio of the iceberg.

Either way, hopefully we pay the fine and he learns from this. Use the experience of what observing other teams works for him and try to find a legal/legitimate way of doing it.

Ultimately we get to judge him next season if he's still here, which is what I said we should have been doing all along anyway.

Apparently, I'm the crazy one though ??

1.) 12 May 2026
12 May 2026 17:20:30
Really got a bad feeling here. It seems highly unlikely that the Boro spying was a one off, and scrutinising whatsapp, text and emails will establish whether this has been going on all season. If so, I think Saints will be expelled from the playoffs rather than fined. If the intern in question shows up on any other clubs training ground camera footage the game is up, and Tonda will go.

And to complete the gloom, I think Boro are so fired up, and Saints distracted, that we will lose tonight. Sorry for the gloom, hope i'm wrong and consigned to the clowns corner!

2.) 12 May 2026
12 May 2026 18:17:07
Not at all Exter, it's valid points and what a forums for.

I'm all about balance and perspective, I'm both a half full/half empty cup guy lol.

The realist in me sees it the same way you do i.e.I can't see it being a one off, it explains a lot and fits together a lot of the missing jigsaw puzzles as to fire Tonda has being blowing apart the league.

It gives a dark/sinister feel to Tonda receiving 3 consecutive Manager of the Month awards too.

The optimist in me though hopes that's the extreme side of him and maybe the naivety of being young/from a different football background meant he didn't realize how severe it was. That hell take these lessons and grow.

Either way though, regardless of spygate, Middlesbourgh were the better team on Saturday. They also have aggregate on their side meaning they don't have to worrying about conceeding as much as we do.

All in all I think it's us who are on the ropes and they're going to be up for it with little fear. I mean if you know someone is spying on you that kind of lifts the shroud on the people your playing, revealing them to not be as scary or threatening as you thought they were.

3.) 12 May 2026
12 May 2026 19:36:05
I agree saints are up against it tonight.I think if Tonda will never have a more important occasion to get both selection and strategy right. And difficult to manage the team who know that even if they win they might be ejected. On reflection of my earlier post, the only mitigating factor against being ejected from the playoffs is that Wrexham would then have a really good shout that they have been denied a playoff berth due to cheating and then EFL get into a whole world of pain legally.

EFL would love Boro to win tonight, saves them a load of pain, the football community are on Boros side as no-one likes cheats to prosper. Saints aren't just playing Boro tonight, they are up against everyone. Tough ask

4.) 12 May 2026
12 May 2026 19:43:04
By the way, it's not away goals counting double.

5.) 12 May 2026
12 May 2026 19:45:26
The EFL only has the authority to fine. do some googling instead of spreading this ball sh*t anti manager rhetoric.
He is a tactical expert who's background is exactly that