25 May 2026 14:41:02
Any suggestions about moving forward, other than sack everyone?

My main thought is that if Tonda isn't kept on that we go aggressively after Danny Rohl.

That got me thinking though. He too is a young German manager, coincidentally he was also at RB Leipzig around the same time that Tonda was. Without going too far down the rabbit hole, does anyone think the spying could be systemic through the majority of young German managers that work abroad? I.e. that it's not frowned upon where they come from which leads them to employ an untapped resource/advantage that other national coaches aren't doing? I'd hope the EFL/FA aren't stupid enough to just go hardcore on us and then forget the whole thing. Hopefully they use this and spend the time going forward looking for similar scenarios.

With that being said though, my plan for going forward would be -

Scenario A) Tonda is kept on. Him and the board have a massive indepth talk about how he will face the questions and scrutiny from press/fans and wether he can handle it. It's plausible that all the spying he did, deep down he didn't need to and perhaps there is one hell of a redemption story waiting to be told. If he truly thinks he can achieve what he has here WITHOUT the spying, then let him stay on. My only concern is that he did seem to rely heavily on the spying (multiple occurrences/forcing people to do it ect)

Or
Scenario B) The board is replaced, Tonda goes and we go get Danny Rohl/The board stays on, Tonda goes and we go get Danny Rohl.

I prefer scenario B as it's the cleanest cut away from what's happened, but the likelihood of it happening is low and why it's my second choice.

I know the obvious solution is just to sack everyone involved but we have to seriously acknowledge the track history of staff signings under them. Unless the board are going to go (unlikely) we have to roll up our sleeves and work with what solutions we have.

I don't buy into this whole "never supporting my team again" ect as it's largely individuals that carry out actions. Individuals come and go but the club remains. On top of that as I always say, fans piss and moan when times are bad (rightly so this time) and sing when they're winning. Hopefully when the dust settles, we get back to some form we were on last season, I think fans will find it hard to be mad/not support a club who's winning.

Scienza was always going to go regardless. Priority for next season is having a decent keeper, Petetz/Ramsdale. I'm quietly optimistic about Petetz coming back as one thing he definitely wants is to be a regular no1 and he knows how much he's liked relied upon here. Secondly keeping hold of Ross Stewart, his injury history is the one golden thread that might keep other clubs at bay and have him resign with us.

The backbone of the club is a decent keeper and strong/physical/clinical striker. If we can keep that, wholesomely address this spying nonsense then we can push for a 6th place finish next season and hopefully doing the playoffs again, the right way.

1.) 25 May 2026
25 May 2026 16:20:29
B isn't an option as Rohl is manager of Rangers.

2.) 25 May 2026
25 May 2026 19:21:31
Hence my phrasing "aggressively" go after him.

3.) 26 May 2026
26 May 2026 17:35:01
TBF, I'd stick with Tonda, keep everyone we can and go and watch every other team we play up to the 72 hr cut off point(apparently spying isn't even illegal in the Prem). Make it absolutely blatantly obvious, it'll force them to put fences up like they should have and will ensure they only get 3 sessions at most to work on tactics against us. Let them whine, everyone in professional sports cheats if they can, when money is involved it's business. By doing all of this it'll kill off the other teams supporters, they won't get the advantage they thought they would. As for Pompey, I'm sure they'd have preferred the cheating charge to the nonce from Chelsea they had on their coaching staff(correct me if I'm wrong on that).

Anyway, yeah I'd love to see Ross and Cyle on board and obviously Peretz. Not bothered about Charles, but the other 3 central midfielders show up every game. 100% keep Bree. Would try to get Targett back at the right price and deal. Try to turn Archer into a left sided winger type. Harwood Bellis will probably go or might be angry and have a point to prove.

As for the cheating, I see worse on the pitch every week and it definitely has more influence on the outcome of games than watching another team train.

Onward and sod the whiners.

4.) 29 May 2026
29 May 2026 23:39:48
Ah ok . Option 3 could be going aggressively going after pep.

Rohl is manager of Rangers, therefore not an option for us unless that changes first.

5.) 30 May 2026
30 May 2026 14:11:48
No Saintsggg because rangers aren't Man City and Rohl isn't Pep.

Rangers literally hired the man who helped relegate us and who you all said was completely useless, in case you need any context of their football standing.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be a challenge but Rohl has history with us/ he knows the club/area and the quality of Scottish football isn't any different to the championship.

Rohl is on the way to being a top manager, it won't be long before the big time comes for him. We have a small window and vague chance of getting him before then, if we go all out.

IF the Tonda thing doesn't resolve itself.

6.) 31 May 2026
31 May 2026 00:23:14
We don't have any chance of taking Rohl whilst he is in situ at Rangers.

If we are going to quote the last, I think the last time a manager left a rangers for England it was for Premier League Aston Villa

7.) 31 May 2026
31 May 2026 12:23:19
There should be no other choice than Tonda
The players love him
The fans love him
The fans love the way he had us playing

There is one among us that believes the cheating had considerable impact on our season
the rest of us do not think like that
If the manager watched every single team team 73 hours before we played them
We would all say well done

Just think about it
The only league in the world with this rule
So it is an accepted part of football throughout the world except for. the EFL


I will say it again
I think the players will rally together to prove to the football world how good we are

8.) 31 May 2026
31 May 2026 14:18:35
You truly have blinders on Southants.

I've given valid points and so has this spying stuff to suggest that the way Tonda had us playing last season is not down to his tactical genius.

Now keep up though because what I HAVEN'T said is that Tonda isn't the man.

There has been some mentioning/anger here and other places towards the radio silence from the club regarding Tonda.

I for one am delighted at the silence as for once it might actually seem their taking their time to assess wether Tonda can take us forward, particularly without the aforementioned methods.

You have blinders on because you think if Tonda stays then we just pick up where we left off, we don't.

He first has to get past the hurdle I was referring to all last season, of rebuilding a team with as good quality, if not better, to the one we had this season. Payers are leaving, that's for sure.

Secondly me, nor you nor anyone, except those involved know the extent to which Tonda was reliant on cheating to achieve what he did. This is something that will hopefully come to light during this radio silence from the board and further on, if he stays.

I'm hoping Tonda is the man but you have take the blinders off and face reality.

9.) 31 May 2026
31 May 2026 19:32:52
I am fully aware that you think Tonda should stay,
But just like your obsession before with Martin and then still, you are obsessed that de spying is the reason we did so well
You have given no valid reasons to support that
To suggest his spying is the key to his success is without any proof
The fact that you are able to watch opponent play anywhere in the world says it's an acceptable part of football, that is a fact
The fact that you can watch your opponent 73 hours before a game, but not 72 hours before a game make it a crazy
The fact that top European clubs are interested in him plus a background with the German national side and Bayern Munich speaks volumes
Well without sounding rude, you are obsessed with the fact this spying proves Tonda is not as good as we all think he is

He is a remarkable young manager, albeit naive
He has got players playing way better than previous managers
He does something the other managers for years have failed to do, just tactics based on adjustments in opponents tactics


You need to clear your mind of this matter


He has to stay and him and the players will be determined to wrong the scandalous decision

10.) 01 Jun 2026
01 Jun 2026 13:45:33
You've still got you're blinders on pal.

All those things you mention can be attributed to spying.

Sure an hours difference, 73 and you're not in trouble.so why didn't Tonda do that ?

He had constant pushback from the people who he was asking to do the spying, to the point he had to bully them into it. That on its own suggests he wanted an advantage. Bullying young interns into damaging their future careers isn't what makes a manager remarkable.

Cheating is only not cheating when the opponents have the same data/advantage you do. We saw this in the Middlesbourgh game. As soon as they found out what we were up to our advantage was blown and they very nearly wiped the floor with us.

It's not 'big clubs' either that want him, I've read the articles as well, it's just mid/low range clubs in Germany where such tactics are less punished. Though I doubt where the advantage would be in employing it in a league where everyone is doing it and that's my point.

We caught other teams off guard, with their pants down. Wether it should be allowed/whether it's ethical is besides the point. The teams we were competing with WEREN'T doing it and it was that factor that gave us the edge in what likely will he found to be the majority of matches under Tonda.

I'm happy for him to stay on, most importantly to watch them blinders slip from your face, because although I want him to be the man, all the points I've made suggest he isn't.

11.) 02 Jun 2026
02 Jun 2026 17:24:52
@southantsrich .I totally agree.

@leslee .Sounds like you will struggle supporting the team next season.

12.) 04 Jun 2026
04 Jun 2026 15:23:02
I smell fish