22 May 2026 21:59:09
You're coming around to my soft side Saintsggg so I'm willing to bury the hatchet ?☕?

One last dig though if I may,

I hate (love) to be that guy but with more info coming out each day, it is looking more and more like Tonda's is the sole instigator and orchestrator of this whole thing. Alas, I called it ? (ok, I'm done)

Messages from him to his interns/staff asking them directly what he wanted gained from them from their spying trips and the testimonials of the interns being unwilling/forced into doing it. That's pretty harsh on young people trying to make their way in the game. It's one thing for Tonda to say "he didn't know" but it's entirely different if your forcing people to do something. That states that they're telling Tonda what he's doing is frowned upon/illegal and he's doing it anyway. Fully aware.

I mean if you look at that picture of William Salt by the tree, he's not exactly 007 or looks to have any clue about how to get away with it or conduct himself, he brought a coffee with his own bank card from the golf course next to it. Literally school boy naivety.

I did initially think Tonda was on the spectrum too, the way he is in interviews. Yet that same demeanor can be attributed to someone who clearly knows he's operating in dark and shady ways.

Diving into his past he's largely an analyst and it's completely plausible that this spying behavior of his, is the thing that has propelled his tactical analysis side and elevated his status in football without anyone around him knowing.

I know I bang on about Will Still but one of the main reasons I came onto this sight was to give a balanced voice to the continual sacking of managers, simply for not putting points on the board. Everyone always says football is a points game, but to me it isn't and we've clearly showed that - by sacking managers (Ralph/Still) that would have ultimately got this club into a better standing (my view) had the fans not turned on them. I've always tried to steer the line of the grass is greener and be careful what you wish for. I was more than happy to spend this season down near the relegation end/mid table as long as it looked like we're were building on what came before. Instead we traded a morally nice/feel good manager for what's looking like an out of his depth/possibly corrupt guy.

Guernseyboy (not sure if you're the same one who's been on here a while) but you need to let the whole fighting this thing go. I'm not necessarily saying what we did truly gave us an advantage, only Tonda would know that. But us accepting it, taking the punishment of playoff expulsion and points deduction is the only light at the end of this tunnel. We've set a a precident now so that hopefully as fans, of all clubs, we can expect nothing like this happens again. Even better for us the scrutiny will be on us, meaning any gains/wins we get going forward will be based on wholesome football.

For me, true change will come with this board leaving. But then, none of us fans our billionaires (unless you guys are holding out on me) ?? meaning we don't get to choose who buys us out and comes in, so any takeover is a roll of the dice. This current board largely wanted us as a platform to push their online gambling ventures, because it seems they definitely don't know much about the football side of things.

I think it's possible fans will start to connect the dots with the board (I'm not saying the board necessarily knew about or had anything to do with the spying) but they're systematic naivety towards everything football has run us deep into the ground. Meaning we might start to see protests and calls for them to be removed, rightly so I say. However I'm just mindful of replacing like for like, or worse.

Is it better the devil you know, I don't know.

1.) 23 May 2026
23 May 2026 08:51:29
I'm done with the club and won't be renewing my two season tickets.

This stigma will run for more years than many of us have left. The club is morally bankrupt and a disgrace to our national sport.

Not the players, not the fans, not any of us, but the suits who have failed to take any affirmative action against Tonda and his half wits.

All of us though are tarred with this. How can we hold our heads high as self respecting Saints fans.

As I said before, a snivelling public apology and a proclamation about 'learning lessons' is condescending beyond belief.

Next season will be tortuous, even if we do win a match with the residue of the squad - basically the players no one else want.

For those of you who remain staunchly behind the team ("Southampton til I die") you have my respect and admiration. But for me, the club is mortally wounded and we need a complete reincarnation - as I said, sack them all.

2.) 23 May 2026
23 May 2026 14:52:41
I agree wholeheartedly with you Miller. I've supported Saints for over 60 years and had a season ticket for much of that time. I didn't think that I would ever walk away from this club but I can't condone what has happened and I can't understand why nobody has been removed yet ( Tonda).He has let down not just the club, the players, the staff and the fans but the people of Southampton.

3.) 28 May 2026
28 May 2026 19:38:12
Hilarious, you two actually think world sport is clean and only the odd cheats abound. Every single sportsman and sports club will take every advantage they can get, some draw lines on some avenues, some draw lines on other avenues.

Cheating is rife at every conceivable level, we got caught doing something that isn't even classed as cheating in the rest of the world. Get over it.