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31 Oct 2018 00:54:43
It is alarming to note the displeasure and discontent surrounding Southampton FC at present concerning Board members and team Management (who are responsible for the current Club's demise. The Chairman must address the Southampton supporters and explain the Club's intentions and future direction before the current situation becomes more toxic.

MH / LR / RW positions to be reviewed with the high probability of replacement. If this problem is not resolved quick smart I fear a more militant action will be taken by local supporters resulting in the boycotting of future home games.

Perhaps the club should consider an approach for Wagner (Huddersfield) / Jokanovic (Fulham) Benitez (Newcastle) / Rodgers (Celtic) to start the ball rolling. All of these coaches (excepting Rodgers) are in a similar position to our own battling the prospect of relegation but all have much inferior squads to ours but have the advantage of managers capable of producing some exciting attacking football
which SFC were renowned for in the past.

No 'll will toward MH (who has reached his capabilities) and should now consider being put out to graze in the Championship/ League1 with all the ex premiership and "nearly made it" managers - over to you Ralph!
St John.

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31 Oct 2018 05:17:11
Benitez is hardly known for free flowing football. I like the irony of every manager you suggest we look at technically doing a worse job than Hughes is this season (except Brendan)!

I do agree though, although not sure we could convince any of them to abandon ship midseason. I think Wagner could be a great option if Huddersfield go down and we manage to survive.

Maybe Pep's bored of winning. We know he likes Redmond!

31 Oct 2018 11:11:52
haha pep.
i personally think fulham have a better squad than us, but jokavonic doesn't seem to be able to get mawson, chambers etc, to defend properly. agree with wagner, and about benitez, do we want see good football, but lose, or benitez style, but get results?

31 Oct 2018 19:12:09
Think the problem with Fulham is they've thrown a defence together very quickly with lots of new players. Firmly believe they'll get better.

Saintlad, we had benitez style with results. It was called Claude Puel, and we forced him out because that wasn't enough for us.

21 Oct 2018 08:11:52
Hi Eds

Is there any credibility to this Leonardo Jardim rumour? Reckon he'll be any better than Sparky, or better the devil you know?!


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Southampton to Leonardo Jardim at this time and I cannot imagine why they would look to approach him.}

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21 Oct 2018 10:44:13
Why's that Ed? Want to see Hughes stay, or just don't think Jardim is up to scratch?

{Ed002's Note - Jardim is a very good manager - but he hardly speaks English.}

21 Oct 2018 14:13:38
Bit like poch then?

{Ed002's Note - No, he spoke good English.}

21 Oct 2018 21:17:06
Aside from the language barrier, why would Saints not go for him and/ or why would he not go for Saints? The whys and wherefores of the managerial sack race are something I really don't understand.

{Ed002's Note - Clubs look to coaches and managers who can fit right in and improve the side. Coaches and managers look for clubs which are high profile, playing at the highest level and somewhere they can excel. Southampton pushed a good manager out of the door - other would be wary of that.}

21 Oct 2018 22:07:46
In a nutshell, and as the original armchair fan, your first two points don't make me think Jardim/ Saints is a non-starter, in fact, quite the opposite. Saints have got a good squad, it just needs the right manager to make it work. Jardim sounds like he could be the right man for the job.


Puel? Bowing to fan pressure was definitely a mistake there. All things considered, he did one hell of a job. This is what happens when you have an ice hockey coach running a football club. Are you saying that moving forward, that could be the decisive factor in terms of Saints' ability to attract managerial/ coaching talent?

22 Oct 2018 08:24:41
I think the point that is trying to be made is questioning if Hughes is right for the job. I actually think the thought process of a lot of fans is wanting to see the club return to the style of how they played in the couple of seasons after promotion back to the pl. We played confident high press football and managers and pundits couldn't lavish enough praise on us. then came the background. the black box, the scouting and transfer policy was admired and studied up and down the country, and possibly further afield. Now it seems those have all changed or adapted from those exciting times to what I csn only see as a hope of pl longevity and stability, it looks like we play with a huge fear of losing and our transfers of late have been supposedly out of the box ready to go. however I don't think its working, we have conducted our transfer business terribly for a good couple of years now and I fear 2 things, firstly we keep going through managers like underpants as they're being drilled that whatever you do don't lose and secondly if, if we get relegated would we have the structure in place to handle the championship, which has become a very strong, very rich league. I hope someone takes the breaks off and we're able to find that suitable balance of excitement and fight but right now, top to bottom I'm not so sure where we are or where we go.

25 Oct 2018 09:43:26
it doesn't help when ex players are criticising the manager as well. The fact is puel wasn't appreciated till he left and he has a similar issue at Leicester where fans want him out (if u believe the press) . Playing deep is ok if you have out and out pace up front which we didn't. For me the squad doesn't look fit enough to play a high press game. Were Koeman more popular with the squad (apparently arrogant and didn't do social work) he may still be here and we may still be playing that game.

03 Oct 2018 20:55:14
Eds any insight into what is going on at our club? Positives (If any) and negatives. Your opinion would be appreciated too. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - It was never going to be anything but a tough season. Awful as it sounds, staying up will be a win-win situation for the club. I have not spoken to anyone for a while but it strikes me there seems to be a lack of a sustainable plan right now.}

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18 Sep 2018 00:27:13
Hi guys

Well that was nailbiting! First half positives Lemina, Hoojberg, Redmond actually producing some good runs, Danny Ings a real handful. Brighton woeful.
Second half- Everyone retreating into their shell, going 2 up never looked enough. When Brighton got their free kick I knew they would score and then you know Saints they were always going to concede. I worry about the entire back 4 Betrand and Cedric look lightweight and Hoedt and Westergaard look immobile and certainly not physically intimidating.

You can blame jwp for the penalty but he should not have been marking Duffy, it was a totally unequal physical mismatch. So we have a lack of leaders or people willing to take responsibility, these guys are highly paid seasoned pros but for me what is worse we cannot string 3 passes together and resort to hopeful long balls forward to 2 small forwards with no hope of winning them.

Again too many balls back or sideways and a lack of movement off the ball, throw ins are a waste of time and so many passes poorly weighted or poorly placed and we always look overrun in midfield. Why oh why do we keep inviting teams onto us we cannot defend, I was hopeful this season but now not all any physical teams or better passing teams which is just about everyone and we will get slaughtered. Saturday at Anfield we will be lucky to keep it to single figures.

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18 Sep 2018 07:16:35
We shouldn't be dropping points from a 2-0 lead at home. That should be the end of it. I don't MH made the right calls with his subs last night. Unfortunately, Brighton's first goal came straight after our second goal meaning that he probably didn't have enough time to assess the game. However, he then brings on JWP and Gabbaidini. JWP is one of the worst physical midfielders in the league. I don't know how those substitutes were meant to serve a purpose to our lead, he then went on to give away a penalty. According to the SS commentators we've had dropped 11 points from leads during MH time with us. It's now 13. He's only managed 13 games.

18 Sep 2018 10:26:59
Sorry but that was pathetic. 2-0 ahead and only need to see the game out so we bring on 2 of the smallest and least defensive minded players. After that I think that we are going to struggle to finish this season anywhere other than bottom 3. How Hughes can think we'll see a game out with players that can't tackle is beyond me.

18 Sep 2018 10:48:45
To me the biggest concern from start to finish was that we didn't have any kind defensive balance at all! Players just ran like headless chickens around. We made it so easy for BHA to attack even they were very poor.

18 Sep 2018 11:24:58
The go to argument every time we get a bad result should not be to blame the players for not taking responsibility, not caring enough or not showing enough passion whilst adding they are highly paid. So are all Premier League players. I remain confident in the abilities of the players. Instead, when there is collective shortcoming, coaching must be an issue. I’m not talking simply about the formation here. Yes, I think a 4-4-2 in the modern game and with the players that we have is outmoded, impractical and ineffective, but I see no identity, style, plan, individual or team improvement. No tactics specific to our players strengths, nor to beat the opposition. Just the same players running around each week and playing out the same directionless 90 minutes over and over.

Last night’s result wasn’t bad luck, nor a lack of responsibility by the players. Brighton’s pen was a result of the defensive tactics used for corners. We mark zonally hence the mismatch between JWP and Duffy. If the marking was wrong, it was because the preparation and tactics were wrong rather than anyone hiding or not doing their job. Brighton specifically switched their tactics and formation to a 4-3-3 to overrun our midfield and, ignoring the limpness of the first half, for the time it was used properly in the second half, it was very effective. MH made no changes to counteract Brighton’s supremacy, a huge momentum swing in their favour, despite only an average first half from us and seeing us come under increasing pressure in the second.

But crucially, there doesn’t seem to be any plan when we attack. Its totally reliant on the individuals on the pitch working it out for themselves. I recently watched the Man City doc on Amazon and the little glimpses into Pep’s coaching were fascinating. Everyone delights in the attacking freedom of Barcelona, Bayern and Man City under Pep, but its not the freedom he gives the players that allows this; its precisely the opposite. He drills his players with and without the ball. In certain situations, the players need to be in specific positions and they repeat the action over and over so everyone knows where on the pitch they should be and the player on the ball learns instinctively where his options are. Pep shows his players where the defenders will be, whether they will press or stand off and what they should look to do in any given situation. Obviously a match doesn’t play out exactly as one predicts, but most actions will remain effective. If things aren’t working as expected, the coaching still pays off as the players have plans B and C conditioned into them from prep for other games which will still feel natural and play fluently. Incredible.

So when I see us attack and the players looking uncertain, hesitant, it just makes me think the coaching falls short. When I see us defend and look so flustered, its because the coaching is lacking. The players aren’t sure what to do and if something isn’t working, they’re not told how to fix it. MH doesn’t make changes from the touchline quickly. Even when subs came on, they didn’t improve us and invited Brighton on. Pep’s clearly a bit of a control freak, but so are most of the best managers in the world. They understand at this level, every detail, every action is crucial and can make or break the game. That’s why they want more control, not less. You can’t just hand the game to the players and say its over to you. That’s not to absolve the players for their shortcomings but I think these are exaggerated by a lack of good preparation and coaching. Are our players better than those at Bournemouth? In the main, yes. Are Bournemouth a better team? Yes. Why? Coaching. Simples.

18 Sep 2018 13:32:49
Yep agree with you figo. I wondered why not a single defensive substitute came on after 2-0. we had Gabbi, Davis and JWP who gave the pen away. why did we not see Yoshida or targett? . seems obvious that brighton will try and win set pieces after their first goal. coaching does seem a bit crazy.

18 Sep 2018 18:32:30
Hi figo

I agree with you regarding the coaching but I believe it goes beyond that. These are top players who have played a lot of football and too many players went missing last night, there are not enough leaders on the pitch. We all remember John Terry, Steve Bruce barking orders at everyone, we don't have that the second half too many players went missing and in the end Brighton wanted it much, much more than us, Glenn Murray was starved of any decent service but he kept going the whole 90 minutes and was never going to miss that penalty. We used to talk about a team having a spine going from keeper to forward but we don't have that! We have spent £50m this summer and we seem no better off, you mention Bournemouth and I am a big admirer of Eddie Howe, this is a team that punches above it's weight totally consistent with limited resources but when they buy a player they will spend big if necessary and they rarely make a mistake, they play entertaining football,
score goals and are always competitive and look like the new Burnley. I agree with the coaching as we could barely string 3 passes together and the idea of us playing out from the back on the ground in neat little triangles is light years away. I think that we can get hung up on formations, our problem which has been deep seated for some time before MH is we play like Manchester United happy to invite teams onto us 'defending' deep and then break the only problem is we can't defend and when we break it's normally too slow and ponderous. We lack players who will tackle consistently and hard over 90 minutes and then use the ball intelligently. Brighton were woeful in the first half and we should have created and scored more, they were there for the taking. In the past I have questioned the teams fitness as we seem unable to see out the whole 90 minutes and nothing seems to have changed, I also watched the programme on Man City and you are right Figo they play beautiful simple football and it is all about drill and repeated practice Chelsea, Liverpool are playing the same way and Wolves are a joy to watch. I feel MH needs to really get hold of this squad which we know has quality players, getting them believing in themselves and their team mates and taking personal responsibility for their positions. I hope we see a significant improvement on Saturday at Anfield as otherwise I believe we could be in for a hiding.

18 Sep 2018 19:53:39
Ha Ha - we want to defend and counter but can't do either. Too true!

If the players at your disposal aren't suited to play a certain way, you play to their strengths.

We do need some sound leadership on the pitch, I can't disagree, but I feel that the players will be less flappable if they had a clear plan to follow. I just don't see one.

I'm now going to watch Liverpool take on PSG. I wonder how they'll cope against us after a dry run warm up against those guys.

18 Sep 2018 21:04:14
I agree with you but I go back to my point these are seasoned professionals and we cannot string half a dozen passestogether, it's amateurish in the extreme.

19 Sep 2018 09:21:30
The downfall and lack of leadership seems to have been lost when we sold Fonte. You'd expect someone to stand up and become a leader. Davis is captain, but he rarely plays anymore. Bertrand wears the armband, but I'd question his attitude towards the club. A lot of our squad still remain from our best season: Bertrand, Cedric, Romeu, Long, Yoshida, Davis, JWP.

19 Sep 2018 16:39:49
hojbjerg for captain.

06 Sep 2018 01:01:59
What's your realistic prediction for winter break and final season position? I think around the winter break, we will be 8 - 14 place and come the end of the season we will be finishing around 10th position (maybe even challenge for 7th and 8th place) . Feel it might be a little optimistic but I think we can do it.

Not sure if mark Hughes is the way to go and say we are in the relegation zone come winter break, should we stay with Hughes or get a new coach? Who would take over as manager?

I see us taking 3 points vs Brighton which would be nice to gain momentum for upcoming games.

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06 Sep 2018 12:22:09
Hmm not entirely sure. hopefully top half both times but.
yeah agree with the Hughes point.
yep hopefully three points against BHA, but there a decent side and cannot be written off. seem to like beating man u so.

06 Sep 2018 13:25:21
I have to let my head rule my heart and say that I think we will finish the season around 13th or 14th place. Not sure about MH but we have to give him a run until Christmas and if we're in bottom 6 look for someone else but that makes it awkward for the January transfer window having someone new that doesn't know the players or what positions that need strengthening. Also depends on who is available to come in and take over. With our recent record of manager ins and outs a lot of managers wouldn't even look at us.

07 Sep 2018 12:49:42
Its still very early days but I think we'll eventually finish somewhere between 10 and 15. We'll see the trend of the top 7 or 8 being streets ahead of the second tier teams who duke it out with each other in what will be a tight finish.

I don't think Mark Hughes will go unless we are playing terribly and back in the relegation zone with no hope of turning things around. He will likely get more time than the previous two managers as the board seem to rate his experience.

By the winter break we'll see the league taking shape in its two tier structure, but spots between 9 and 18 will probably be separated by no more than about 10 points. We'll be in that mix somewhere but I only see us picking up around 15 points between now and then.

08 Sep 2018 18:32:10
Hi guys

I think we have made a reasonable start to the season nothing earth shattering but fair. I think the key to improving is to cut down on the stupid sloppy mistakes e. g. Everton away last year 3 points instead of 1. I was encouraged against Crystal Palace admittedly without Zaha but to score 2 goals and keep a clean sheet shows promise. I understand people's reservations about MH but last season there were not many managerial choices and I was encouraged by our transfer dealings, it looks like Danny Ings could be our missing link as long as he stays fit. I
also believe this club needs a season of relative stability where we are comfortable league wise hopefully providing the platform for good cup runs and no more nailbiting finishes. I
haven't seen too much of our football this season and let's hope MH doesn't tinker too much with the formation. As figo wrote there are few points covering many places in this league and the ability to cut out sloppy mistakes, lapses in concentration ( how a player cannot concentrate for 90 minutes baffles me? ) can make all the difference between a good and mediocre season. don't forget we also had a new owner at Xmas, I think the first 4 games have been an eye opener who would have credited Watford and Bournemouth being at or near the top of the table, it just shows what can be achieved with a modest budget, and good training and motivated players. We all know this league is a marathon not a sprint but I am optimistic we can have a good season playing entertaining football and looking forward to Saturdays. Regards vs coyr.

09 Sep 2018 18:32:31
I like the look of this squad.

All of a sudden there is character flowing throughout the squad. This has been missing.

Based upon this and the potential of many in the group I predict an improving situation as the season develops. 7/ 8th for me, and somewhere along the way a strong cup run.

12 Sep 2018 12:49:47
We all get very optimistic don't we after 1 victory!
I would be delighted with a top 10 finish/ if we finish with more than 50 points.
However, I can't see this happening. We now struggle to get regular victories. And I think all other teams around us are as good as us if not better, with the transfer market being what it is it has allowed other teams in the bottom half to strengthen their squad. The likes of Brighton, Bournemouth, Watford, Newcastle are all at the same level as us. Because of this the premier is so much tighter, 2 seasons ago we finished 8th but only 6 points off Watford who finished 17th.
A few seasons ago I would have said we were the best team outside the big 6, now I just can't get behind that statement.

13 Sep 2018 17:15:06
Hi SaintUS - Another great topic you’ve brought up

I think we’re good enough to be just below Everton (assuming they have the season they ‘should have’) in the top 10 - between 8th and 10th (so 9th then! )

It’s a bit of a dog eat dog division though isn’t it. One moment you could be looking like a lost cause and heading down down deeper and down, the next could be one little spark to change the status quo and pick up a few wins or points and go right up the league table and be hanging around just outside the big boys. Alongside Arsenal then!

I won’t rule out relegation for the Saints But I’d also not rule out use finishing top six or seven. No idea, and that’s part of the ‘beauty’ of the Premier League. The beautiful game and all that

Keep Hughes. I like him as a man and as a manager. I liked him loads as a player too. Think he’s starting to find his best team - although it’s often at the expense of my fave players (What a goal Steven Davis scored for Northern Ireland the other day, quaaaaality player) but yeah. Backing Hughes all the way.

Three points against Brighton would confirm my enthusiasm. Defeat may just curb it.

Good stuff, good mix of comments. Up The Saints!

14 Sep 2018 17:54:22
Wow, I am loving some of the positivity - I want some. I don’t rate Hughes but would take him happily over MP2 but not CP, Koeman or of course MP1. I’ve been of the same opinion in the 12 games or so he has managed and although too early to fully judge, I have not seen a recent signing that could develop into a great player and high sale. This is supposed to be our module, or so I thought.

Honestly speaking I am struggling to see past 14th. I think we can feel somewhat fortunate to be on 4 points, although I missed the Everton game.

14 Sep 2018 19:48:11
Haha Saint Etienne. Just need Rossi and Parfitt now. lol.

15 Sep 2018 14:14:33
It's very hard to judge, but between 11-14th is what I expect. Looking at the players we have by position, it's false to believe that Newcastle, Watford, Bournemouth etc are at our standard; the bench however is a different matter.
Hughes isn't a bad coach and he has clearly tried to improve upon his coaching weaknesses: being vocal during the game, creating stronger relationships with the players and developing other systems. I think that we can progress under him to the level we were just before Poch came in - with a core of young, hungry English players (Targett, Sims, Jones, Slattery, Obafemi (Irish, yes) and others) that can emulate that promotion team. But in the longer term we need someone more dynamic, I like Giovanni van Bronckhorst of Feyenoord, so that we can return to European heights.

27 Aug 2018 22:40:38
Harrison reed gone on loan to blackburn then.

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29 Aug 2018 05:27:29
Don’t understand that one.

30 Aug 2018 14:40:08
And now sam McQueen to Boro.

31 Aug 2018 10:31:20
I get mcQueen, he had two guys in front of him and was never going to get a game. Think this is probably best for Reed's development since he was never going to get enough game time for us, but I had considered him our backup rb, so wonder what our plan is there now he's gone.

01 Sep 2018 09:08:18
Yeah can see that and targett is playing well at the moment, I just wondered if McQueen had more about him going forward, he started as a left winger and was always more impressed with his forward play. thought he could of been a decent option but good luck yo him and hope he comes back even better. I've said before I actually rate reed McQueen and Sims good enough to be starters for Southampton but we've packed the squad with so many expensive foreigners that they can't get s look in. maybe hughes plan is get them all up to speed match ready, flog of all the dead wood next summer and bed them into the team next year. who knows 😬 hope they all do well.

03 Sep 2018 12:06:38
I think it's good that we're sending these players out on loan. It'll be good for them to get the experience. Instead of playing under 23 football. However, my one issue is that looking at the teams from the weekends no one has actually started any games, apart from Jones and Carrillo who actually scored this weekend vs Real Madrid.

09 Aug 2018 17:13:40
A little underwhelming but not the worst. Just have to hope gabbi and Charlie stay fit I suppose. Here's to the new season!

{Ed001's Note - Danny Ings is on the way mate.}

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09 Aug 2018 17:32:08
Deal sheet in. Ings on his way to Soton. Source:bbc sport transfer day feed.

09 Aug 2018 18:11:45
Well to be fair to the club with ings on loan this has been a pretty successful transfer window. We look to have strengthened in the right areas and with Hughes in charge this could be an enjoyable season. loaning Ings is the right way for the player and us because this try before you buy scheme was the only way anyone could possibly contemplate taking him . So for me the club get 8.5 out of 10 so COYR let's take Burnley after their Europa travels on Sunday all the best for the season guys regards vs.

09 Aug 2018 20:52:31
Thanks ed. Hadn't heard about ings! Not bad loan deal. COYS!

{Ed0333's Note - how does it feel to get a player from Liverpool instead of the other way round. Shame you couldn’t take Clyne and Lalana back mate.

09 Aug 2018 20:59:59
If we can get zings to play for us as he played at Burnley playing off either Austin or Gabbiadini we’ll have made a good move. Not entirely sure why we didn’t just get on with it and sort this all out a lot earlier.

10 Aug 2018 16:26:56
Get rid of jay Rodriguez who was far better than Ings before his long term injury and sign Danny ings who's now in the exact same position for 20 mil after signing Monaco's 4th choice striker for 20 mil also. maybe we should of just kept Rodriguez and saved ourselves 40 million pound. Southampton have undone everything good they have done in about 2 seasons. And I'll be amazed if we stay up. On the brightside Shane long Charlie Austin and Danny ings might hit double figures combined this season, league starts that is days out injured I expect their smash treble.

11 Aug 2018 03:37:56
Loving the positivity SRG!

12 Aug 2018 15:38:55
Not being negative but I would just wish Redmond would take a few chances and stretch their defences a bit more
He’s got the ability but lacks the confidence
Anyway a point against a solid Burnley isn’t the end of the world.

12 Aug 2018 22:10:11
Completely agree Diggy, but I actually thought he did a better job of that today than he did last year. He seemed a lot more direct when he got the ball.

13 Aug 2018 20:25:14
Ings was immense apart from one offside he did nothing wrong. Redmond was much better but beats three then checks watch sterling goes till the end good or bad Vestergaard got better through the game much better with 4 at the back and Stephens more than capable at rb in back 4. Austin and redmond either need to close properly or not bother thought CA was very poor surprising full ore season with no reported jiggles would rather see big Sam start.

08 Aug 2018 14:47:18
Eds, today we're being linked with Lobotka and are said to be leading the chase for Ings alongside Palace. Any truth in the former and have you heard any updates on the Ings situation since your last posts on it?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of Southampton interest in Stanislav Lobotka but Spurs have looked to him as an option after losing out on their preferred choice to replace Dembele, but may not see value in the €35M asking price. Napoli are still looking to add another midfield player after Ruiz and have a declared interest. Interest from Southampton remains with Ings as Alcacer is looking out of the question. The interest of Leicester has gone. After getting nowhere with Babacar and Aleksandar Mitrovic, Crystal Palace have turned to Ings.}

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08 Aug 2018 21:31:31
Many thanks Ed002.

Whilst Ings presents a bit of a fitness gamble, I'd rather him over Welbeck if there is any truth in that rumour.

08 Aug 2018 23:07:31
Please let us sign a striker. Please.

08 Aug 2018 11:23:16
Ed's any truth in Welbeck rumours?

{Ed002's Note - I don’t know anything of rumours. Welbeck is available.}

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07 Aug 2018 17:23:42
I'm reading that Watford have bid £10m this afternoon for James Ward-Prowse.

I'm sure that figure will be re-buffed, but although he's 'one of our own' does he actually have that much influence on our team? Should we negotiate and actually let him go?

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07 Aug 2018 19:01:57
He could quite easily go to wolves for 1st team football cause we have so many players in that position but he is probably one our best set piece takers. Tricky one really 🤔.

07 Aug 2018 19:47:09
I would let him go for maybe £14 or £15 million if it opened up a place so that we're able to bring in a decent striker but letting fringe players go has a habit of turning round and biting us in the bum re. Jay Rodriguez who could be on his way to Wolves for a lot more than we let him go for.

07 Aug 2018 20:18:03
Hi guys I agree it's difficult 're jwp yes he has come through as a boy but being honest he has always struck me as lightweight he does deliver an occasional set piece but not consistently enough he is not big enough physically to compete as a central midfielder he like too many of our players doesn't score enough goals 10m is not enough but closer to 15m you would have to really think about that bid. I really like the lad but I cannot really see him develop to the next level and we have an excess of midfielders at this time and we desperately need a top notch forward who can look to score 15+ goals a season. I take on board the decision could come back to bite us but if a decent offer came in I would say take it. Regards vs.

07 Aug 2018 20:26:25
Jay Rodriguez has done little to justify an increase in transfer fee so that's more down to the market rather than us missing a trick.

JWP remains an enigma to me. I really want him to be good as his set places are so impressive, but he just doesn't seem to have to the speed of thought required to succeed in the premier league as a midfielder at this stage. That may be solved by getting more game time but also, it may never come for him. As it is, he has been given a decent number of opportunities to show something and I just don't think he has it in his locker. For England's sake rather than Saints, I hope I'm wrong.

For me, a sale works well for both parties but £10m is a poultry sum given they have recently sold Richarlison for £50m. They can have Davis for £10m if they want. As you say, £15m would be more tempting if it gives us time to bring in someone with experience to strengthen the team.

09 Aug 2018 13:50:01
I'm now reading that Burnley have bid £15m for JWP, and it looks close to happening.

I wouldn't bet against JWP going to Burnley and then Danny Ings coming to St. Marys for the same figure. Any thoughts?

(JWP is a midfield generalist, which probably goes against him. He can play in the Centre, but we have better. He can also play in a wing/ attanking role, but again I feel we have better options that would be ahead of him in the starting line up) .


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