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24 Jan 2019 17:11:47
Reading that Inter are offering £17m for Cedric which I think all would agree is a very decent deal. I also read RH is not looking to bring any players in during this window and he is confident of avoiding relegation.
There is no doubt that RH has grabbed everyone's attention with his management style, it looks like we have an exceptional talent who is delivering results in a result business. What is encouraging for me is that the majority of the players have bought into his philosophy and we have all seen a dramatic improvement in jwp, Redmond, and others. Those that didn't or were unable to have been moved on or will be let go in the future. I genuinely believe we could be in for an exciting few months as Saints fans, where we can actually look forward to the next match, and St Mary's regains it's fortress status.
COYR.

Vintagesaint

1.) 24 Jan 2019 21:59:10
I think that if £17m is correct I would bite their hands off. We have several players who can play in that position and that would give RH some money to bring in someone that he wants. Also free up more money as Cedric was reportedly one of the top earners.


2.) 25 Jan 2019 11:50:56
This is not correct, the BBC are reporting a loan with the option to buy for around 9.5 million. A bit disappointing if you ask me.


3.) 25 Jan 2019 11:51:29
Reports today are a little pessimistic on the financial front with Inter now believed to simply be paying less than 1m euros for a loan for the remainder of the season with an option to buy at a price of about 11m euros. All in, that would be about £10m. In today's market, that seems low for a member of the Portuguese squad that are current Euro champions. He's been a solid and regular player for us since then as well. I guess the price will be influenced by Cedric's wish to leave, RH's happiness to offload him and the January window being an awkward one to do business.


4.) 25 Jan 2019 12:30:23
Does anyone think 500k for a loan deal is a bit low? Maybe saints want boufal back from his loan?


5.) 25 Jan 2019 14:14:28
I've read that his release clause is only 11m, but if they loan him then he'll cost 1m, then they'll have the option to buy for 20m after, so they're shooting themselves in the foot.


 

 

18 Sep 2018 00:27:13
Hi guys

Well that was nailbiting! First half positives Lemina, Hoojberg, Redmond actually producing some good runs, Danny Ings a real handful. Brighton woeful.
Second half- Everyone retreating into their shell, going 2 up never looked enough. When Brighton got their free kick I knew they would score and then you know Saints they were always going to concede. I worry about the entire back 4 Betrand and Cedric look lightweight and Hoedt and Westergaard look immobile and certainly not physically intimidating.

You can blame jwp for the penalty but he should not have been marking Duffy, it was a totally unequal physical mismatch. So we have a lack of leaders or people willing to take responsibility, these guys are highly paid seasoned pros but for me what is worse we cannot string 3 passes together and resort to hopeful long balls forward to 2 small forwards with no hope of winning them.

Again too many balls back or sideways and a lack of movement off the ball, throw ins are a waste of time and so many passes poorly weighted or poorly placed and we always look overrun in midfield. Why oh why do we keep inviting teams onto us we cannot defend, I was hopeful this season but now not all any physical teams or better passing teams which is just about everyone and we will get slaughtered. Saturday at Anfield we will be lucky to keep it to single figures.

Vintagesaint

1.) 18 Sep 2018 07:16:35
We shouldn't be dropping points from a 2-0 lead at home. That should be the end of it. I don't MH made the right calls with his subs last night. Unfortunately, Brighton's first goal came straight after our second goal meaning that he probably didn't have enough time to assess the game. However, he then brings on JWP and Gabbaidini. JWP is one of the worst physical midfielders in the league. I don't know how those substitutes were meant to serve a purpose to our lead, he then went on to give away a penalty. According to the SS commentators we've had dropped 11 points from leads during MH time with us. It's now 13. He's only managed 13 games.


2.) 18 Sep 2018 10:26:59
Sorry but that was pathetic. 2-0 ahead and only need to see the game out so we bring on 2 of the smallest and least defensive minded players. After that I think that we are going to struggle to finish this season anywhere other than bottom 3. How Hughes can think we'll see a game out with players that can't tackle is beyond me.


3.) 18 Sep 2018 10:48:45
To me the biggest concern from start to finish was that we didn't have any kind defensive balance at all! Players just ran like headless chickens around. We made it so easy for BHA to attack even they were very poor.


4.) 18 Sep 2018 11:24:58
The go to argument every time we get a bad result should not be to blame the players for not taking responsibility, not caring enough or not showing enough passion whilst adding they are highly paid. So are all Premier League players. I remain confident in the abilities of the players. Instead, when there is collective shortcoming, coaching must be an issue. I’m not talking simply about the formation here. Yes, I think a 4-4-2 in the modern game and with the players that we have is outmoded, impractical and ineffective, but I see no identity, style, plan, individual or team improvement. No tactics specific to our players strengths, nor to beat the opposition. Just the same players running around each week and playing out the same directionless 90 minutes over and over.

Last night’s result wasn’t bad luck, nor a lack of responsibility by the players. Brighton’s pen was a result of the defensive tactics used for corners. We mark zonally hence the mismatch between JWP and Duffy. If the marking was wrong, it was because the preparation and tactics were wrong rather than anyone hiding or not doing their job. Brighton specifically switched their tactics and formation to a 4-3-3 to overrun our midfield and, ignoring the limpness of the first half, for the time it was used properly in the second half, it was very effective. MH made no changes to counteract Brighton’s supremacy, a huge momentum swing in their favour, despite only an average first half from us and seeing us come under increasing pressure in the second.

But crucially, there doesn’t seem to be any plan when we attack. Its totally reliant on the individuals on the pitch working it out for themselves. I recently watched the Man City doc on Amazon and the little glimpses into Pep’s coaching were fascinating. Everyone delights in the attacking freedom of Barcelona, Bayern and Man City under Pep, but its not the freedom he gives the players that allows this; its precisely the opposite. He drills his players with and without the ball. In certain situations, the players need to be in specific positions and they repeat the action over and over so everyone knows where on the pitch they should be and the player on the ball learns instinctively where his options are. Pep shows his players where the defenders will be, whether they will press or stand off and what they should look to do in any given situation. Obviously a match doesn’t play out exactly as one predicts, but most actions will remain effective. If things aren’t working as expected, the coaching still pays off as the players have plans B and C conditioned into them from prep for other games which will still feel natural and play fluently. Incredible.

So when I see us attack and the players looking uncertain, hesitant, it just makes me think the coaching falls short. When I see us defend and look so flustered, its because the coaching is lacking. The players aren’t sure what to do and if something isn’t working, they’re not told how to fix it. MH doesn’t make changes from the touchline quickly. Even when subs came on, they didn’t improve us and invited Brighton on. Pep’s clearly a bit of a control freak, but so are most of the best managers in the world. They understand at this level, every detail, every action is crucial and can make or break the game. That’s why they want more control, not less. You can’t just hand the game to the players and say its over to you. That’s not to absolve the players for their shortcomings but I think these are exaggerated by a lack of good preparation and coaching. Are our players better than those at Bournemouth? In the main, yes. Are Bournemouth a better team? Yes. Why? Coaching. Simples.


5.) 18 Sep 2018 13:32:49
Yep agree with you figo. I wondered why not a single defensive substitute came on after 2-0. we had Gabbi, Davis and JWP who gave the pen away. why did we not see Yoshida or targett? . seems obvious that brighton will try and win set pieces after their first goal. coaching does seem a bit crazy.


6.) 18 Sep 2018 18:32:30
Hi figo

I agree with you regarding the coaching but I believe it goes beyond that. These are top players who have played a lot of football and too many players went missing last night, there are not enough leaders on the pitch. We all remember John Terry, Steve Bruce barking orders at everyone, we don't have that the second half too many players went missing and in the end Brighton wanted it much, much more than us, Glenn Murray was starved of any decent service but he kept going the whole 90 minutes and was never going to miss that penalty. We used to talk about a team having a spine going from keeper to forward but we don't have that! We have spent £50m this summer and we seem no better off, you mention Bournemouth and I am a big admirer of Eddie Howe, this is a team that punches above it's weight totally consistent with limited resources but when they buy a player they will spend big if necessary and they rarely make a mistake, they play entertaining football,
score goals and are always competitive and look like the new Burnley. I agree with the coaching as we could barely string 3 passes together and the idea of us playing out from the back on the ground in neat little triangles is light years away. I think that we can get hung up on formations, our problem which has been deep seated for some time before MH is we play like Manchester United happy to invite teams onto us 'defending' deep and then break the only problem is we can't defend and when we break it's normally too slow and ponderous. We lack players who will tackle consistently and hard over 90 minutes and then use the ball intelligently. Brighton were woeful in the first half and we should have created and scored more, they were there for the taking. In the past I have questioned the teams fitness as we seem unable to see out the whole 90 minutes and nothing seems to have changed, I also watched the programme on Man City and you are right Figo they play beautiful simple football and it is all about drill and repeated practice Chelsea, Liverpool are playing the same way and Wolves are a joy to watch. I feel MH needs to really get hold of this squad which we know has quality players, getting them believing in themselves and their team mates and taking personal responsibility for their positions. I hope we see a significant improvement on Saturday at Anfield as otherwise I believe we could be in for a hiding.


7.) 18 Sep 2018 19:53:39
Ha Ha - we want to defend and counter but can't do either. Too true!

If the players at your disposal aren't suited to play a certain way, you play to their strengths.

We do need some sound leadership on the pitch, I can't disagree, but I feel that the players will be less flappable if they had a clear plan to follow. I just don't see one.

I'm now going to watch Liverpool take on PSG. I wonder how they'll cope against us after a dry run warm up against those guys.


8.) 18 Sep 2018 21:04:14
I agree with you but I go back to my point these are seasoned professionals and we cannot string half a dozen passestogether, it's amateurish in the extreme.


9.) 19 Sep 2018 09:21:30
The downfall and lack of leadership seems to have been lost when we sold Fonte. You'd expect someone to stand up and become a leader. Davis is captain, but he rarely plays anymore. Bertrand wears the armband, but I'd question his attitude towards the club. A lot of our squad still remain from our best season: Bertrand, Cedric, Romeu, Long, Yoshida, Davis, JWP.


10.) 19 Sep 2018 16:39:49
hojbjerg for captain.


 

 

21 Jan 2018 18:12:17
Hi guys
A much better performance, yes we rode our luck but better ball retention, Gabbiadini total waste of space, if the ball is not laid on a plate he throws his toys out, his body language is crap, send him back to Italy, why is Stevens going for that header rather than him, even Tadic had a great game, Boufal needs to toughen up, but we were well organised, but second half lapse back into inviting teams onto us, I still don't think we are as fit as other teams but we need to play like this every game! We can get out of this. coyr.

Vintagesaint

1.) 21 Jan 2018 19:00:11
It was a better performance, but I guess it is true about fine margins with a couple of close chances for both teams.


 

 

19 Nov 2017 17:49:54
Hi guys just read the match review on here from a Liverpool perspective and Saints were described as abysmal, no attacking threat and scathing about, Van Dyck, Bertrand, Cedric and their defensive capabilities. It doesn't make pretty reading, I feel sorry for our fans who travelled up yesterday and watched that s---. I think the club should offer to refund them at least!

Vintagesaint

1.) 20 Nov 2017 09:36:36
If anyone should know about a lack of defensive capabilities it is Liverpool. They were alright testamerday as we had no attacking threat. They also had mane Henderson and Coutinho back so that wasn’t great timing from us. I don’t think it’s down to the manager as it wasn’t down to puel last year I think it’s time for a major shake up and if we can get 60 odd m for VVD after paying off the hoops we should sell him and move in . The whole team appear to be playing with fear and yet again tadic makes one mistake and Salah scores a great finish we need some out an out pace up from and that makes teams keep some players back for the break away and we don’t have that. Survival this season then we need a serious reorg after that.


2.) 23 Nov 2017 03:12:38
I toldly disagree! Sorry. but our manager isn't the right man for us it seems. we all know this is a result business however far more important something is the performance it's self! If we played well but lose we can handle that no worries.

On balance I think we saint fans do not tend to rush and press the panick button when things start going wrong. After all those of us who are long in the tooth have been there and seen it all before.

That said we've had the best opportunity for years to get a good start to the season with the team's we've played. No game is easy of course but tactically our manager is up the river without a paddle. No shots on or off target in a few games this season already? These poor performances is down to lack of conference our players have in the manager and his style of play he has asked of them.

I see some of you blame the players for their efforts and form that's a shame when we've all seen them play outstanding for us in past! Do they become poor players over night? Or might it be something to do with the board selling some of our world class players and losing a couple world class managers by doing so.


I will always be greatful to Markus and KL but it can be safely said she has had a exit plan for sometime. But We are in a
far better place because of them. So they have my respects. KL has the profits so win win end of.

We may need to go through the same process with the new owners as well in time we will see if that is to come true. Only they will need to claw back around 300 million! To do so.

Time to be ruthless get rid of the manager asap replace with Koeman!
Remember the top six teams rarely lost a world class players season after season like we have and still move forward like we did. The board may of felt confident after hitting the jackpot a few times but nobody keeps winning all the time.

World class players don't grow on trees. Sale one and the others lose faith in the board and club as a whole. That is what happen here!
Reality bites.


3.) 26 Nov 2017 19:01:19
So today same players and manager and u still don’t disagree he didn’t gloat or told you so but just reiterated his beliefs and mantra the team played well 1-11 regardless and the crowd helped. Let’s joinn forces behind him he could be anything and the Clive be anything with him. Bring back koeman are you taking the piss everyone players and staff hated him. I’d rather stick than twist at the moment.


4.) 27 Nov 2017 17:52:09
Ok we will have to agree to disagree about Kidman yourviews are just as important as my are.


What I personal liked about koeman was the way he handle the media personally I hate them generally as they are parasites.

I couldn't possible know if the players hated him as you said as that's hear say! The fact remains he got us in Europe which ment he got results. Which ment he did job well like him or not!

The reason we didn't progress well in Europe was because wanmama antics refusing to play! Who's to blame for that?

As for Norman's short lived Everton career wow after one season he took them forward masively leapfroging us!

Then giving him just 9 games this season to gell together so many new players is nonsense! Just because their new chairman is ex KGB Russian.

{Ed001's Note - he was sacked because he was an arrogant tit who was hated by the players and staff at the club. He refused to fulfil his contracted obligations with regard to community activities, both at Saints and Everton and was roundly hated by all the staff at both. Nothing to do with your nonsense about the new chairman, when the Everton chairman is in fact the same one, Bill Kenwright, who has never been anything to do with the KGB. Why spout such ignorant lies?}


5.) 28 Nov 2017 10:32:05
Ok sorry for the misunderstanding on Everton chairman front: kenwright has always been a cool guy. So it's my mistake but I was trying (badly) to reference Everton's controling owner e. g. the one with the real power! He is connected in Putin and the k. G. B and his money. So said a T. V documenty I saw two weeks.

As for his refuseal to fulfilling his contact with us you are again correct!
However, I blame both party's for this. firstly Koeman, yes he not without blame.

But I blame our board mostly. Because they had the power! But they chose to showed weakness instead. Letting him go for 5 million to Everton, when he got us in Europe. Therefore under valuing the job he did for us.

If our clubs board showed some consistances which I feel they must.

The answer every single time should be the same. Which is your under contract your going nowhere full stop! Which means he couldn't of excepted the Everton job in the first place.
Losing 5 million compo would mean little to a club our size at the end of the day. Showing some balls and consistencey would prove a point to the media, players and managers alike. Stop messing with us.

let players contacting run down if they wish to move at the end it fair play. If we pay 18 million for a player who score 20 plus goals per season and signed Five contact his value to us is approx 3.6 million a season real worth ( plus wages) peanuts! In the footballing world today.


As for your claim all the staff and players didn't like him one bit if true ( again that is hear say)
Please point me towards a video clip to watch to prove your point?
Then I'll give your view some weight.
That said nobody gets on with everyone all the time. Frankly it's not his job to be liked nor is it the most important personal quailtly to have in a manager Getting job done is.! Nobody can argue he took us forward therefore did his job well.
Koeman took us forward in both his season with us! Otherwise Everton wouldn't of headhuntered him.

I'm short I'm not asking you to like him just merely respect the great job did for us.

Frankly in a fantasy world if I was in the saints manager Job I'll be hard nosed about it full stop! I'm not the type person to start Licking players asses. Tell them to Shutup your paid to do a job get on with it! If you refuse to play I will break them. Likewise I'll deal with media in the same way ( have they shown us respect)
In my view No! So I wouldn't be showing them respact. It is better to be feared as a manager then liked.

{Ed001's Note - whatever. Your ignorance is astonishing, which is no wonder as you are dismissive of anyone else's view. I really can't be bothered with you. It is pointless talking to someone who doesn't want to listen so I won't.}


6.) 29 Nov 2017 11:50:04
I am just impressed Ed managed to understand this.


7.) 30 Nov 2017 10:07:34
4thelove, it was well documented that koeman was strongly disliked by first team players, some staff and pretty much all the younger players.

I believe the quote from mane was "he's an arrogant asshat". Koeman got lucky to not get sacked by saints. If it wasn't for Shane long going on a goal scoring run (hard to believe I know) a couple of years ago that pulled us up the league, koeman could have lost his job then.

He absolutely tore Matty targett to shreds in front of the whole squad, ward-prowse hated him. Even for a Dutch bloke koeman is arrogant and it was only a matter of time until things turned very sour at everton. Koeman is great for a season, and then things tend to go wrong for him.

At saints he did sod all community work, refused to promote any youth players, and didn't spend long enough at the training ground or on the pitch. seems he made those same mistakes at everton too. Getting 5-6 million for him was bloody good business for a manager who refused to commit to us and sign a new contract. This information was leaked over 18 months ago. But obviously because there are no videos of staff confirming it, it's all rubbish? Jeez.


8.) 30 Nov 2017 13:54:26
MilkySaint you make some fair points here!
well said I take on board. However note no youth player has broken through since he's left so maybe he had a point here in his views.

I do recall mane turning up late for training a couple of times as well so has reason to dislike him for fining him and dropping him as well.

As for comminity work I can't be sure he refused to all that was asked of him but do know he came to look at young youth player here in Botley for some one on one training a few times.

I can't support his actions towards Matt Target even though I personal think Matt will never be of premiere quaitly. As I believe he'll be soon be sold on.

Also I can't agree with you in hindsight can you honestly say another season under Koeman wouldn't of been far better then it was under C. P?
and the flat boring season we had?
No with all his faults another season under Koeman over the season we had with C. P and a possible another season in Europe would be my personal choice.
It's also about our apporch of forcing managers, players to honour their contacts!
invoking this consinsdencely would mean we wouldn't need to put up with player saga's season after season.
we've put up with this s. t for years
believe me when I say if I was The Saint manager in a fantasy world I would told V. V. D your never be sold by Southampton nor will you play for as again forcing him to wait until he was 30 years to play a professional game again only then when we are perpare to rueing a player will we get the respect we deserve.


9.) 03 Dec 2017 12:39:21
It's not the managers choice. It's down to the board. After selling lallana etc and fans kicking off we has to set a precedent and tell vvd he's going nowhere.

Last season we had McQueen and sims come in to the squad and play Well. If they can continue to improve then they are potential first team players in the next couple of years.

As for last season under puel, we finished 8th in the league and reached the league cup final (which we deserved to win) without key injuries to vvd and Austin and without the jose fonte issue maybe we'd have done even better.

We told koeman to stay and sign a new contract to show his commitment. He didn't want to so we replaced him. How can you expect players to sign new deals and commit if the manager refuses to do So?

So no, I don't think another season under koeman would have been "far better". it could have been far worse.


10.) 04 Dec 2017 13:57:01
You can't really expect any manager to commit themselves to Southampton at the time with our track record of selling some of best players season after season?
when they have ambision of their own which isn't being reciprocated at the club they are at!

Ok we got to a final fair play to C. P and we played well in that match and we was unlucky to lose you are correct. One match doesn't make season of watching boring entertainment value football.

The fact for most of the season it was boring to watch sideways passing just to keep the ball. Finishing 8th on a total of 46 points over koeman's two season finishes of 7th 60 points high tempo style and pleasing to watch follow by a 6th on 63 points total. if that isn't going backwards I don't what is?

The fact remains players and in some cases managers don't have the time in their careers to wait around till everything fits into place for them to succeed where they are at. In hindsight I am sure Koeman thinks he should of stayed here with us. At the time I bet he thought he was being undermined. His efforts not truely valued.

But Everton fc offered him more personal money and more money to spend on the squad. However, if we stop! and thought about it.

Poeple/ owners at Everton also tend to be impatient. Success is required now! And needs to be Constancely moving forward progress all the time.

Koeman couldn't deliver that so was sacked by Everton's controling owner!
Interesting to note That Everton have just replace him with the person who finished one place behind koeman in 7th in the season 14/ 15 who was sacked in that year at west ham? For playing borning style of football.

Doesn't that make you wonder how lucky we have been to of had Markcus and Kat as our owners these last few years?

No in hindsight I'll take Slow, steady and balance progress over the poker style of Everton owners today for sure.

while it maybe difficult for me to except we have needed to lose many a world class player to remain where we are today a mid table team. Note none of our ex players have won anything yet in their careers since leaving us! So maybe we are all wrong sometimes. We easily forget the club itself is the most important thing in the end. The caretaking roll Markcus and K. L have done for the club and supporters has been fantastic and we need to step back and try to remember that.

We may lose a few world class players and managers along the way but they are not the most important thing to hold on to the club is forever a deadicated follower of Southampton.


11.) 04 Dec 2017 19:28:49
I agree with that completely 4thlove.
Many fans have moaned about us selling lallana etc but we needed to in order to build a squad capable of staying in the league and also improving. Without lallana, Lambert, Lovren and Shaw being sold (for well over their value) we wouldn't have got mane, pelle, alderweireld-van dijk- bertrand, romeu, hoedt, probably forster, Cedric, Austin, gabbiadini, lemina. It's progression. what have the players done since they left us? . mane looks potentially world class. Lallana has improved but is very injury prone. everyone else has done sod all since and look half the players they were with us. We've built steadily. Yes, last season was poor by our standards. but poor still got us to 8th, a cup final and we should have gone further in Europe. the board recognised this and replaced the manager at the end of the season. not mid season panic and getting Sam allardyce in! I like the way our club is run. but football is not an exact science. Sometimes things work out and sometimes they don't. We learn and we build and we progress. That's the Southampton way.


12.) 06 Dec 2017 10:52:27
MilkySaint, I am in complete agreement with your views, here! Non the less it's challanging time being a being Saint fan putting up media exploits of continually undermining our snakes and ladders progress. Up one minute down the next.

I wonder if you was Saint manager what would you do in the january and summer Windows?

if you was given the resources required to allow you do whatever you wished keeping it within the bounds of reality of course.

That said it's hard to know if our new majority owners will keep to same ideals we have had these last sevenal seasons?


13.) 06 Dec 2017 16:59:10
I'd like to see us move tadic on and attempt to get a quality, creative number 10 type player. someone with a little bit of pace too. someone like lanzini would be within our budget and who I think could improve the team. I'm sure there are more and possibly better alternatives in europe.


 

 

22 Oct 2017 00:15:27
Hi guys, I thought that the way the teams were set up looked a lot more balanced with Bertrand going forward on the left and creating chances. WBA are a typical Pulis team as Lee Dixon said on TV playing with almost a back six plus the awful weather conditions, we looked much better going forward, all the players worked really hard and MP made some daring substitutions which came off, Redmond looked more disciplined and creative and Boufane's goal was an absolute peach, it reminded me of Ryan Giggs goal vs Arsenal, great contender for goal of the season. When you are playing against a big, disciplined back four crosses into the box are a waste of time and I would like to see more variety there and corners. Great free kick from Bertrand! We are not there yet but if we can carry on from here the season looks brighter. Regards VS.

Vintagesaint

1.) 22 Oct 2017 23:05:07
Good post, agreed. Really positive substitutions that changed the game. WBA are a tough side to break down 😇.


 

 

 

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25 Apr 2019 16:35:52
Hi ed,

As a football fan, we have all seen the demise of Man Utd but know very little of the goings on behind it. Are there any plans for any of the eds to pen an article about this?

Vintagesaint

{Ed001's Note - there is now, I have added it to my to do list for you VS.}


1.) 26 Apr 2019 01:38:14
Hi ed,

I'm sure I speak for everyone here and thank you and all the eds for your work which is much appreciated and really makes this website so excellent. regards vs.


 

 

24 Apr 2019 01:16:47
Hi guys

Well against Watford a game truly of 2 halfs, obviously SL's great opportunistic goal and also saints unlucky to hit the woodwork twice! Watford woke up second half and just scraped a draw. Now the chance to achieve safety on Saturday against Bmth. I guess before this game we would all have taken a point and now we are finally scoring goals. I am now fearful for Brighton as Hughtons unimaginative tactics of playing for a 0-0 draw was proven against Spurs to be no tactic at all and their last 3 games look awful, and it's possible they might not get another point as they can't buy a goal and to be honest Warnock is a prat but Cardiff have contested all the way through this league and might just pull it off. Once safety has been confirmed we can look forward to a summer of reorganisation, sorting out the squad issues and planning for next season. So roll on Saturday and let's beat Bmth!? Coyr.

Vintagesaint

1.) 24 Apr 2019 22:42:43
VS, agree with what you say about us Brighton and Cardiff. BHA are in free fall, was surprised that they got a point at Wolves and don't expect them to get another. Love him or hate him, Warnock is a character, and if he kept Cardiff in the EPL this season it would be his greatest achievement. Always remember when we were in the Championship, he was manager of Leeds, and we won 1-0. They battered us and Kelvin was man of the match. Watched it on TV and at the end they just cut the sound in time as Warnock "exclaimed" to Nigel "How the fuc. " I assume the ending was . k did you win that. Laughed out loud properly.
We seem safe but need to beat Bournemouth, and I think it'll be tight.
Interesting stat from Sky is that Saint's have lost the most points from a winning position this season, 25. Another thing we need to fix.


2.) 25 Apr 2019 12:35:31
And if we had held on to the 25 points we would now be just 2 points behind Man Utd and fighting for another season in Europe.


3.) 25 Apr 2019 13:44:51
Yes

I also saw that as you say look where we would be if we controlled the games better! . I am sure this is something that RH will be addressing over the summer. Let's put Bmth away on Saturday and finish the season looking forward rather than back. coyr.


 

 

14 Mar 2019 16:17:19
Hi ed,
I just wanted to congratulate all 4 English teams getting through to the Champions League quarter finals, great to see the krauts and the frogs with no representation! It just shows the strength of English football, let's hope we can avoid each other in the ties probably Juventus or Barcelona favourites, it would be great with an all English final!
Regards vs.

Vintagesaint

1.) 14 Mar 2019 18:07:40
Also nice (awful) to see two saints prodigies scoring Liverpool’s goals at the Allianz arena! Hopefully we have some clauses relating to that 🤣.


 

 

22 Jan 2019 02:48:36
Hi guys

Still buzzing after Saturday's great performance, who would have thought that RH in just over a month would have carried out such a transformation! The difference in players who were underperforming and failing, practically written off has been nothing short of remarkable. ps I also include OGS of UTD in this statement! For me it demonstrates that there is a lot of c--p talked about football, it really is a simple game and yet this sport/ industry is full of rank amateurs and charlatans, seasoned professionals ( we all know who they are) yet who failed to play entertaining football, awful recruitment policies, expensive players sidelined drawing huge wages on ridiculous long term contracts. I was watching Everton fan podcasts over the weekend and I totally empathise with them, Everton were dire on Saturday, not for the first time this season! and we were very recently there in the same situation. An article in the sun today hilights how poorly run Everton have been in the last few years paying well over the odds for very average players, their wage bill for only half the squad is £750k per week. I remember we released Martina on a free and he went to Everton and got in the first team! Alexi Sanchez at Utd on £350k per week and his 4 goals have cost £6m each, Ozil at Arsenal on the same £350k. Let's face it we have blown £20m each roughly on Boufal, Carillo, Gabbi, £15m on Hoedt with no guarantee of any return, guys that is £75m! . I don't care how rich you are who wants to or can afford to squander huge sums like that! . I think sometimes we as fans have very short memories and put the blame back on owners for failing to put their money where their mouth is. It makes total economic sense for any club but especially one like Saints to return to concentrating on creating a youth team production line to provide a seamless and ultimately better value and proven method of moulding and making players who fit the "Southampton way" and would hopefully be in the main be of UK origin which would benefit home national teams. COYR Comments and responses welcomed.

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04 Jan 2019 09:51:30
Hi ed,

I like most other soccer fans watched the city vs Liverpool game and thought what a great advert it was for the premier league and I was prompted to write after reading the Liverpool website. I genuinely could not believe what I was reading literally blaming everyone from alisson to Salah and writing the team off. This was a game decided on fine margins Manes effort hit the post and stones somehow managed to keep the ball from crossing the line and also stop Salah from bundling it in and then Sane hits the post and it goes in. I thought Liverpool fans were better than this, you are still 4 points clear, but I also remember how much stick Milner used to get from the same fans and he is the epitome of a great soccer professional. So move on and support your team, some of us fans can only dream of your past and no doubt future success. Regards vintage saint lifelong saints fan!

Vintagesaint

{Ed033's Note - I suppose all you can say is, Klopp Out :)


1.) 04 Jan 2019 11:19:56
If only all supporters of other teams were as rational and objective as us eh VS?


2.) 04 Jan 2019 12:27:23
Absolutely!


 

 

 

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14 Apr 2019 09:16:16
Hi giggsy,

Great performance from the whole team, I agree we are practically safe, let's just play out the last few games with the same spirit! I think the summer will be interesting, I am not predicting many players coming in as there are so many loan issues to be resolved. I raise a possible contentious issue, I am a great admirer of Danny Ings but I fear is he genuinely fit enough long term to commit £20m to buy him? We haven't had him fit for the whole season and I genuinely like him but we cannot afford to carry another potential injury worry. Anyone else with the same concerns? As always coyr. Regards vs.

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26 Jan 2019 03:27:45
It seems that there have a number of players quite happy to take their exorbitant salaries and not interested in playing. I think a squad of 18-20 should be big enough to cope. let's move the dead wood out to some other teams wage bill and sit out the season there.

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25 Jan 2019 20:27:58
Hi figo

It confirms what I've read Aston villa as 1 possible destination. RH is definitely not messing about, as you say trimming the fat . I can imagine our weekly wage bill is dropping nicely. let's face it a squad of 25 players solely for the Premier League is bloated to say the least. I think we will see a move towards fewer younger fitter more versatile players who are more multi purpose and can cover a variety of positions, an exciting prospect. coyr viva rh.

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24 Jan 2019 01:24:09
Hi guys

No matter if our opinions differ what is really great to see how many people are posting on here and how well supported Sfc are! Coyr.

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23 Jan 2019 13:55:56
Hi milky

Great post and I believe that you are right and I genuinely believe that holding back on buying in this window is the right way. We are in this situation with an overly large squad because of short term, knee jerk reactionary buying. I totally agree that we have enough quality to avoid relegation this season. I also believe that in the summer the market will be flooded with an excess of players being offloaded by clubs looking to reduce their bloated wage bills e. g. Everton. coyr.

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30 Apr 2019 03:01:21
Hi guys

We have obviously unearthed a gem in RH and
he is naturally attracting interest from everywhere. He obviously loves the club and the youth policy and the great facilities etc. I believe that the recruitment of the new director of football and scouting is all part of the new football orientated process and a definite move in the right direction. We need to recognise that good/ great managers are very rare and football is a totally unique job marketplace plus we need to recognise how much a succession of poor managers has cost us in pay offs, acquiring poor quality expensive players the legacy of which we still have to carry and we are not going to be rid of these bench warmers in the short term plus let's face it this relegation struggle over the last 3 seasons has been damaging to the club's reputation and has prevented us attracting quality players also let's face it watching saints before RH was no longer a pleasure and no wonder crowds at St Mary's have dropped off. With RH and the other staff we need to reward them not only financially but emotionally and give them pretty much free rein to go back to the old Southampton way of a pathway for the youth and potential players from lower divisions and ensure as much as possible that they are not going to be tempted to go anywhere else. I read that Mark Hughes has been paid off by various clubs £15m and Jose Mourinho £51m, so failure costs! We need to go back to our roots and start again punching above our weight, as we don't have a super rich backer or huge fan base. I read also that Tottenhams new stadium catering/ corporate facilities are contributing £800k every home game which pays Harry Kane's wages! I really hope that RH is the start of a new brighter era at St Mary's and let's get back to being the best of the rest! coyr.

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27 Apr 2019 19:44:45
Hi guys

Well we are safe! It wouldn't be saints if we didn't make it hard work. 're players we are committed to buying Danny Ings so let's let him rest and get him fit for next season, I have read that Austin, FF, Jack Stephens plus 3 others are going to be released. Here's a suggestion bring Callum Chambers back, he has been superb for Fulham this season either as a defender or midfielder and obviously doesn't have a future at Arsenal and is only 24.coyr.

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26 Apr 2019 01:38:14
Hi ed,

I'm sure I speak for everyone here and thank you and all the eds for your work which is much appreciated and really makes this website so excellent. regards vs.

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25 Apr 2019 13:44:51
Yes

I also saw that as you say look where we would be if we controlled the games better! . I am sure this is something that RH will be addressing over the summer. Let's put Bmth away on Saturday and finish the season looking forward rather than back. coyr.

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17 Apr 2019 00:24:07
Hi teejay

I think you are right, Brighton are in freefall and they are away to wolves and spurs next and they can't buy a goal! You have to hand it to Cardiff let's just keep working so we can just look at what's going on at a safe distance! Mind you I didn't hear Warnock saying Brighton should have had a penalty! Coyr.

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