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06 Jul 2019 19:23:12
I've just read on SSN that Leeds have accepted a bid for Pontus Jansson from an un-named Premiership Team. Saints were looking at him last year and again in January - Could it be us? Reckon he would be an excellent addition. What do you guys think?

SaintBen1

1.) 06 Jul 2019 22:44:46
Reports that he's either going to Sheffield united or Brentford. Haven't heard any rumours about us being in for him.


 

 

07 Jun 2019 09:52:18
Reading this morning that Saints have agreed a £13.5m deal to sign Nigerian striker David Okereke from Serie B side Spezia (Although, I will add this comes from The Sun so may be way off the mark! )

SaintBen1

1.) 07 Jun 2019 11:12:24
Thanks SaintBen1. However I have seen this guy linked with Derby, palace, wesh ham, clubs in France and Belgium. Not saying the Sun would print something that isn't true of course.


2.) 07 Jun 2019 13:25:05
Adam Blackmore has said on his twitter that saints have made no contact but che Adams is in talks.


 

 

11 Dec 2018 09:05:21
Reading in the press that Hasenhuttl has identified Davie Selke as a Striker he'd like to bring in during the January window. Really like the look of this guy, seems to score (about) 1 in 3 and at 6'5 and 23 years old, looks on paper like a younger version of Pelle (Who we never replaced, and crave as a focal point up top)

SaintBen1

1.) 11 Dec 2018 10:00:27
Also being linked with Dayot Upamecano. though I struggle to believe that one! One of the best young players in the world, can't see what would drag him here (major wage increase aside! )


2.) 11 Dec 2018 10:44:51
Yeah, I took the Dayot Upamecano rumour with a liberal pinch of salt! Can't see Saints ever paying the £30m+ fee being touted for the player, but we can hope! :-)


3.) 11 Dec 2018 18:44:47
Upamecano would be great, but I find it seriously hard to believe.

I haven't heard of Selke for a few years so don't know too much about him. He does seem to fit the profile of what we need though.


4.) 11 Dec 2018 19:53:56
^ i’ll never get this “hurr southampton won’t pay x amount for a player” stuff. Last 3 seasons we’ve spent 175 million inc 22.5 on Vestergaard and 20 on Carrillo.


5.) 11 Dec 2018 23:12:31
Yeah and that was over £40 million wasted wasn't it.


6.) 11 Dec 2018 23:45:12
No one thought we’d appoint a manager like Hasenhuttle either. I doubt we will get Upamecano and it’s likely just paper talk, however Fulham signed Seri and how many people thought that would ever happen? Football is a crazy game sometimes.


7.) 12 Dec 2018 02:08:21
I read somewhere that Upamecano has a release clause of £90 million so I don't think we'll be getting him. As for Selke, he's only scored once in his last 12 matches so probably no better than the strikers we already have.


8.) 13 Dec 2018 03:26:09
Where did you read about his release clause? Again it’s unlikely but we can hold out hope! In regard to Selke he may not have been at his most prolific this season but RH knows the German league well and if he’s identified him as a target I for one will trust his judgement.


9.) 13 Dec 2018 16:37:23
I can't remember where I read it but I think it was one of the online papers. I know they don't always get it right but even if it was half of what they reckon I think it would rule us out.


10.) 13 Dec 2018 17:12:46
Yea it likely would. We’ll just have to wait until January I suppose.


 

 

29 Nov 2018 09:09:04
Reading this morning that Saints have lined up Paulo Sousa to take over if MH doesn't get a win against Manchester United this weekend. Apparently he was at the Saints vs Fulham game. Not sure how much I believe this 'rumour' but he doesn't really have the best background with English football management.

SaintBen1

1.) 29 Nov 2018 10:36:29
Seems favourite with most now - if this is the case I think it’s time to pack up and go home.


2.) 29 Nov 2018 19:05:23
Even if we beat Man U, which is entirely possible as they are a shadow of their former self it would only paper over the cracks.
I’m thankful to MHs for keeping us up, although I do feel we were lucky and other teams kind of imploded. 3 million to buy his contract out surely is better that the amounts we would lose in the Championship next season and beyond. Hopefully the board will get a grip sooner than they did last season. Personally, I don’t want to be wishing we have Big Sam to guide us from relegation with a couple of games to go. Not sure who would be a good fit or who would want the job. Why would a decent manager want to come here?


3.) 29 Nov 2018 21:32:55
You've hit the nail on the head Springhill. It's not about who Southampton FC want or who the fans want. It's all about who in their right mind wants to take over a team with players that are unfit, lacking in confidence and have forgotten how to grind out a result.


4.) 30 Nov 2018 09:11:19
Totally agree about the possible struggle to even find a manager of the right calibre who wants to take on the Saints 'project', but essentially jobs only come up because of the previous managers failing, or being poached because of success - So isn't it almost a given that a manager coming into a club has to do an element of fire-fighting?


5.) 30 Nov 2018 12:12:32
Agree to a point Ben but most potential managers coming in would want some assurances over money available for transfers and player recruitment and I can't see Southampton FC making decent funds available to them.


 

 

16 Nov 2018 14:26:33
Southampton are in talks with Leicester City's head of recruitment, Eduardo Macia, according to French media.

After the departure of Les Reed, the Saints' vice-president, they are looking for a complete change of the backroom staff, and Macia's appointment is a part of that change.

Macia, who was Real Betis' director of football prior to his appointment at Leicester in 2016.

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{Ed001's Note - he was at Liverpool with Benitez.}


1.) 16 Nov 2018 21:37:37
Pardon my ignorance but is Macia any good? I've never heard of him before but maybe we will be in a better position with him.


2.) 17 Nov 2018 04:28:52
Thought we'd be looking at that guy Webber from Norwich? Is there any truth in that, eds? Many thanks in advance.

{Ed001's Note - I believe, at least that is what has been suggested from the Norwich end though obviously you have to take this with a pinch of salt as it is in their interests to say this, that he is not ready to leave the Canaries just yet. He has so far just rescued them from financial difficulties and supposedly wants to at least attempt a rebuild. Like I said, that does come from the Norwich end, so it might just be them trying to put other clubs off making him offers.}


 

 

 

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28 Jan 2019 09:30:55
My thoughts on our current transfer activity - i. e. Trimming the squad.

If we do in fact trim the squad down to have say 15-18 proven players, with the rest of the 25 made up of improving and up/ coming younsters from the U23's - This would give us a much lower wage overhead than we currently have - It could also provide us with the chance to pay a larger weekly wage for some outstanding performers to try and take us to the next level?

2/ 3 players @ £100-£150k per week
10 players @ £50-£70k per week
10 U23 players @ £10k per week

With this model, we have a fine balance across the 3 'tiers' of player, but potentially could go for those players that we haven't been able to afford, or keep in recent years. Thoughts?

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17 Dec 2018 14:57:34
I can't stop watching the highlights of yesterdays game! Everything abut the performance was fantastic!

Ralph put the right 11 on the pitch, and set them up perfectly - The players put so much into the performance and the crowd fed off the enthusiasm and really were the proverbial 12th man. Really excited now for the rest of the season and dare I say hopeful now for 6 points from the next two games on that showing! ;-)

SaintBen1

1.) 17 Dec 2018 18:17:29
Agree Ben. Still think that we need 2 or 3 new faces in January though.

{Ed0333's Note - your new manager is a breath of fresh air. Seems like he’s got a personality too compared to the Moody Trudy that you got rid off. Excellent piece of recruitment and I hope you stay up. You beat a resurgent arsenal team so you should be super happy. You’re biggest problem will be keeping hold of this guy I think.


2.) 17 Dec 2018 19:02:40
Cheers Ed, I agree and think we will stay up too. Yes keeping hold of him may be an issue but if he goes to a big club, hopefully other promising managers may see themselves taking a similar route and using us as their stepping stone. We can’t complain when they go if we’ve had 2 or 3 years good service, as they must have been a success to have a bigger club seeking them and fans are quick to moan if it is a mediocre appointment like the last one.

I would still question why Hughes was given a long term contract in the back of the results at the end of last season, but I care much less now RH is in charge.

{Ed0333's Note - yes mate Hughes was a tool and have no idea why he was given anything more than a 1 year rolling contract. If he gets a premier league job again I’ll be horrified. RH is gonna be a breath of fresh air enjoy the magical mystery tour mate because I’m not sure he’ll be around for the long term.


3.) 18 Dec 2018 09:05:58
I'd like to think he'd stay around until at least the end of next season (if results continue to go the way they went on Sunday) . He seems like quite a humble man, if you consider he didn't want to take the Bayern Munich job because he didn't think he was ready. This shows to me that he has a clear career path and a massive focus and drive to become the best, step by step.

In his press conferences, the way he handled himself on Sunday. He knows what he wants and that's great. He is very clear in the way he comes across and I want that. I don't want the transparency that we had with Mark Hughes. Where it's like "We lost 5-0 but we played well and could've scored 6 goals". Still defensive errors and decision making costing us the two goals and Arsenal could've scored more, so I'm trying not to get too carried away. But a great win and hopefully we will seem like a new team by the end of Jan!


4.) 18 Dec 2018 11:12:52
I was delighted with the result and the work rate of the players but I'm not sure it was a fantastic performance. There were many positives to take from it but Arsenal always looked threatening and were better at retaining the ball and stealing it back with a press than we were. We gifted them two goals and Romeu's speed of thought and lack of defensive awareness remains deeply troubling for someone in his role. We were also gifted three goals by Arsenal's makeshift defence, as fantastic as the crosses and finishes were.


I'm not trying to pour cold water on things after a great result, but just don't want anyone to get so carried away and expect a walk in the park against Huddersfield or West Ham. Fortune was on our side on Sunday to reward the efforts of the players but it remains a very real possibility that performances will be up and down for a while yet as personnel adjust to the new style of play.

Can't agree more though about the appointment of RH. Excited to see the changes he can make here. I hope he stays for at least two full seasons to get the squad and club right.


5.) 19 Dec 2018 08:41:03
Figo .
Romeu's speed of thought and lack of defensive awareness remains deeply troubling for someone in his role.

Absolutely spot on . The one very weak link in our armour. I am surprised he is being championed as the 'one player that will flourish under RH' .

But somehow i have faith that the new man has spotted that already .


 

 

21 Nov 2018 12:35:45
What are everyone else's thoughts on a potential Martin O'Neill / Roy Keane Management team coming in for the Saints?

SaintBen1

1.) 21 Nov 2018 14:38:34
Could work. Roy would take no prisoners and I'm not sure the board is ready for him.


2.) 21 Nov 2018 15:20:10
1 goal in the Nations League and 1 win all year - wouldn’t mind a bit of Keane up the backside but definitely not O’Neill.


3.) 21 Nov 2018 17:32:23
I posted earlier on Mark Hughes, I am not sure about him, but I believe we are way up the table of chances created, but we just can’t find the net. After they get on the pitch it’s the players who are in control. Do we have the players that Mark wants, or do the board not want to spend any money. One day we might surprise someone and bag a hatful, you never know. Keep on believing, I have supported the Saints for almost sixty years, and we are higher up the league than we are for most of that time.


4.) 22 Nov 2018 07:54:46
I think that O'Neill is a decent tactician and would do well with a team full of top players but unfortunately we have a team full of average players.

{Ed001's Note - tactician? He is an abysmal tactician. What O'Neill does well is take average players and make them believe in themselves and play better as a team, at least when a club manager. His methods do not translate at all to international football because they rely on building a team as he is so inept tactically and his coaching is even worse. He is a motivator. He has always been ridiculously overrated. Even at Celtic, where his European results were bettered by Strachan after him, even though Strachan was having to strip down the squad to recover from O'Neill's overspending. It was O'Neill's tenure that put Aston Villa in trouble, he buys older players and puts them on big wages, usually never using them as he sticks with his old favourites no matter what.}


5.) 22 Nov 2018 10:54:37
Terrible idea. Its another example of backwards thinking and looking to hire someone because they have experience and I am so tired of hearing fans interested in hiring someone who will shout at players or give them a kick up the backside. That’s what so many said about MH coming in and unsurprisingly the effect has been non-existent.

We need a modern head coach, supported by a coaching staff, that can develop these players technically and mentally. That can coach effective tactics as well as improve the understanding of players in respect of their individual roles and working as part of a cohesive team. A head coach with a system and style of play that matches the aspiration of the fans and the club. Listen to Ross Barkley’s comments about the change in coaching since Sarri took over at Chelsea. A manager with a style of play is teaching the players how to perform in that system, similar to Pep and Poch and other modern coaches.

Its not enough to rely on the players to adapt and outplay an opposition if they are not properly prepared through coaching. It is not enough to believe someone shouting at the players will make them all play better. It is not enough to expect someone telling the players they’re great to improve performances either. That is football coaching of two decades ago. Time to move on.


6.) 22 Nov 2018 13:14:57
Fair comment, so figosasilva - Who would you go for?


7.) 24 Nov 2018 07:49:57
Not sure who the club have been tracking but after this afternoon at Fulham we’re probably going to find out within the coming weeks
Can’t see us getting anything really we’ve got a few injuries
And they’ve now got the tinker man who will give them a boost 100%
It’s going to be another dull afternoon I expect.


8.) 24 Nov 2018 10:24:14
I think there have been some interesting names mentioned in the posts on this topic. Hassenhutl, Lampard, we've seen Wagner and now Daniel Farke at Norwich come in from second tier in Germany and do great things.

My personal pick at the moment - I'd love to see someone like Hannes Wolf who looks an exciting young coach at Hamburger SV. He's only just started there though so think a move is unlikely.


 

 

06 Jun 2018 16:44:00
I'm just reading that Leicester have met the release clause for Jonny Evans, supposedly £3.5m which to me seems like an absolute steal for a player of his ability and experience. Can't help but think he could have been an ideal addition to the Saints backline, and for what is this days peanuts in terms of money - Thoughts?

SaintBen1

1.) 06 Jun 2018 20:14:03
I'd say its almost impossible we haven't looked at him, but I really doubt we'd get him to come here. Unfortunately after last season, we are a less attractive proposition than the likes of Leicester and Everton, and not just for financial reasons.


2.) 06 Jun 2018 21:14:36
I would imagine his age has counted against him in our thinking- the club aim still being to bring on mid-20's players with a mind to improving them and selling them on. £3.5m now is indeed cheap, but you won't profit. Contrast the 1-2 million you might get moving Evans on again to the Virgil sale and you can understand their logic!

Targets like Gibson and Mawson are strong leaders AND have future potential, so I reckon that is the direction we will be heading. I definitely think this does create the risk of a leadership void at the back again though, as we saw this season- I guess we won't know until they all line up in August.


3.) 06 Jun 2018 22:25:38
Probably 120k a week Ona 4 year contract plus 2-5 million signing on fee, bit rich for saints.


4.) 07 Jun 2018 13:28:26
Decent player but age and wage counting against him.


 

 

09 Jan 2018 11:30:13
Does anyone know how the VVD sale was structured? I've read reports today mentioning we've only received £17m upfront.

SaintBen1

1.) 09 Jan 2018 18:49:13
Like most transfers, I assume the fee is spread out over a number of years. From memory (I read an article on this a few years back), the fee is often spread out over the length of the initial contract, with deals varying as to whether this is spread evenly or front loaded. From the sound of things, VVD deal was quite 'buyer friendly' (i. e. evenly spread out rather than big initial payments), hence the high total value of 75mil.

I'm not certain of all this though, maybe eds know if this is right?

{Ed001's Note - I don't have a clue, I have little interest in this kind of thing to be honest. None of it will reach you or I, so I fail to see what difference it makes?}


2.) 09 Jan 2018 19:56:53
Maybe if you knew who I was you wouldn't be saying that.


3.) 09 Jan 2018 21:15:54
what?


4.) 09 Jan 2018 21:21:33
Just read we could be going for Kelechi Iheanacho,
Any thoughts on this personally I would be happy with this he definitely knows where the net is
Struggled at Leicester but maybe he just doesn't suit the system he's young enough and has bags of potential.


5.) 09 Jan 2018 22:25:48
Rumoured in the summer. personally think it would be a good signing. also bod I have to ask . erm what? Who are you? Is this your Friday night? Hahahahah.


 

 

 

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19 Jul 2019 10:19:50
I think we'll see a lot of movement in the final week of the window.

All clubs are currently going after their 'top targets' of which i'm sure Hoedt, Austin and Lemina are not among; but with squad gaps remaining all teams will start to cast the net wider and go for players that are known to be available.

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28 Jan 2019 09:24:18
Che Adams would be a great signing - He's been in great form for Brum for the past few seasons and would be the type of player i'd like to see us 'pluck' from the Championship - He has a bright future! Hearing that some of the so called larger teams are also looking at hi, so get him infront of Dave to convince him that we should be his destination of choice ;-)

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21 Dec 2018 10:45:52
I don't think losing Gabbi would be too much of a loss, if both Ings and Austin can stay fit they can fill that 'Goal-poacher' mould. What we need is a strong and imposing Target Man, and getting £15m for Gabbi would help in buying one.

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11 Dec 2018 10:44:51
Yeah, I took the Dayot Upamecano rumour with a liberal pinch of salt! Can't see Saints ever paying the £30m+ fee being touted for the player, but we can hope! :-)

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03 Dec 2018 12:01:10
That would make perfect sense, Hasenhuttl seems to have good credentials and while at RB Leipzig played a very high-press attacking style - Bring it on!

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30 Jan 2019 16:58:31
I could potentially see Omar Elabdellaoui and Che Adams in through the door before the window shuts, but that'll be it. And if we fail to get them, then we'll definitely wait until the summer window.

And if we put our faith in the youth squad, then so be it; that doesn't actually worry me - Ralph is the right man to get the best out of the group - and give them the confidence they'll need on the biggest stage.

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07 Dec 2018 09:54:47
Love it!

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07 Dec 2018 09:54:28
Realistically it was always 'have 2 players for every position', but in fact we have much more than that. What about injuries I hear you say? Well, if we do find ourselves short, what a perfect opportunity for a U23 player to make the step up and stake a claim. Happened recently with Yan Valery, and he hasn't let anyone down (could even be seen as an improvement over Cedric! )

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22 Nov 2018 13:14:57
Fair comment, so figosasilva - Who would you go for?

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08 Nov 2018 09:30:46
Or change their wage structure to be 'heavily' weighted towards a win-bonus? (say, a 30/ 70 split)

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