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11 Dec 2018 09:05:21
Reading in the press that Hasenhuttl has identified Davie Selke as a Striker he'd like to bring in during the January window. Really like the look of this guy, seems to score (about) 1 in 3 and at 6'5 and 23 years old, looks on paper like a younger version of Pelle (Who we never replaced, and crave as a focal point up top)

SaintBen1

1.) 11 Dec 2018 10:00:27
Also being linked with Dayot Upamecano. though I struggle to believe that one! One of the best young players in the world, can't see what would drag him here (major wage increase aside! )


2.) 11 Dec 2018 10:44:51
Yeah, I took the Dayot Upamecano rumour with a liberal pinch of salt! Can't see Saints ever paying the £30m+ fee being touted for the player, but we can hope! :-)


3.) 11 Dec 2018 18:44:47
Upamecano would be great, but I find it seriously hard to believe.

I haven't heard of Selke for a few years so don't know too much about him. He does seem to fit the profile of what we need though.


4.) 11 Dec 2018 19:53:56
^ i’ll never get this “hurr southampton won’t pay x amount for a player” stuff. Last 3 seasons we’ve spent 175 million inc 22.5 on Vestergaard and 20 on Carrillo.


5.) 11 Dec 2018 23:12:31
Yeah and that was over £40 million wasted wasn't it.


6.) 11 Dec 2018 23:45:12
No one thought we’d appoint a manager like Hasenhuttle either. I doubt we will get Upamecano and it’s likely just paper talk, however Fulham signed Seri and how many people thought that would ever happen? Football is a crazy game sometimes.


7.) 12 Dec 2018 02:08:21
I read somewhere that Upamecano has a release clause of £90 million so I don't think we'll be getting him. As for Selke, he's only scored once in his last 12 matches so probably no better than the strikers we already have.


8.) 13 Dec 2018 03:26:09
Where did you read about his release clause? Again it’s unlikely but we can hold out hope! In regard to Selke he may not have been at his most prolific this season but RH knows the German league well and if he’s identified him as a target I for one will trust his judgement.


9.) 13 Dec 2018 16:37:23
I can't remember where I read it but I think it was one of the online papers. I know they don't always get it right but even if it was half of what they reckon I think it would rule us out.


10.) 13 Dec 2018 17:12:46
Yea it likely would. We’ll just have to wait until January I suppose.


 

 

29 Nov 2018 09:09:04
Reading this morning that Saints have lined up Paulo Sousa to take over if MH doesn't get a win against Manchester United this weekend. Apparently he was at the Saints vs Fulham game. Not sure how much I believe this 'rumour' but he doesn't really have the best background with English football management.

SaintBen1

1.) 29 Nov 2018 10:36:29
Seems favourite with most now - if this is the case I think it’s time to pack up and go home.


2.) 29 Nov 2018 19:05:23
Even if we beat Man U, which is entirely possible as they are a shadow of their former self it would only paper over the cracks.
I’m thankful to MHs for keeping us up, although I do feel we were lucky and other teams kind of imploded. 3 million to buy his contract out surely is better that the amounts we would lose in the Championship next season and beyond. Hopefully the board will get a grip sooner than they did last season. Personally, I don’t want to be wishing we have Big Sam to guide us from relegation with a couple of games to go. Not sure who would be a good fit or who would want the job. Why would a decent manager want to come here?


3.) 29 Nov 2018 21:32:55
You've hit the nail on the head Springhill. It's not about who Southampton FC want or who the fans want. It's all about who in their right mind wants to take over a team with players that are unfit, lacking in confidence and have forgotten how to grind out a result.


4.) 30 Nov 2018 09:11:19
Totally agree about the possible struggle to even find a manager of the right calibre who wants to take on the Saints 'project', but essentially jobs only come up because of the previous managers failing, or being poached because of success - So isn't it almost a given that a manager coming into a club has to do an element of fire-fighting?


5.) 30 Nov 2018 12:12:32
Agree to a point Ben but most potential managers coming in would want some assurances over money available for transfers and player recruitment and I can't see Southampton FC making decent funds available to them.


 

 

16 Nov 2018 14:26:33
Southampton are in talks with Leicester City's head of recruitment, Eduardo Macia, according to French media.

After the departure of Les Reed, the Saints' vice-president, they are looking for a complete change of the backroom staff, and Macia's appointment is a part of that change.

Macia, who was Real Betis' director of football prior to his appointment at Leicester in 2016.

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{Ed001's Note - he was at Liverpool with Benitez.}


1.) 16 Nov 2018 21:37:37
Pardon my ignorance but is Macia any good? I've never heard of him before but maybe we will be in a better position with him.


2.) 17 Nov 2018 04:28:52
Thought we'd be looking at that guy Webber from Norwich? Is there any truth in that, eds? Many thanks in advance.

{Ed001's Note - I believe, at least that is what has been suggested from the Norwich end though obviously you have to take this with a pinch of salt as it is in their interests to say this, that he is not ready to leave the Canaries just yet. He has so far just rescued them from financial difficulties and supposedly wants to at least attempt a rebuild. Like I said, that does come from the Norwich end, so it might just be them trying to put other clubs off making him offers.}


 

 

08 Nov 2018 10:31:08
Southampton Football Club can today confirm it has agreed to part company with its Vice Chairman (Football), Les Reed.

SaintBen1

1.) 08 Nov 2018 11:47:35
Clearly a statement of intent but seeing that Krueger himself released a statement, I doubt he would be following Reed out the door.
Reed did exceptionally with the Koeman appointment and made a fair share of shrewd signings. I just think his downfall is the lack of progress he displayed and his stubbornes of sticking to the same model even though it has failed for two seasons straight and didn't progress the club any further than it already is. Although few could argue that our time under Koeman is the 'hit the ceiling' period of our club, the way we regressed the past two and a half season is astounding. Nevertheless I thank Reed for playing a part in bringing European football to St. Mary's but it's time for a different approach.
Question is, knowing that the fault doesn't solely lie on Reed himself. How long will it take until the hierarchy takes action on other members they deem responsible? Is Krueger's position under threat? Hughes? Bill Green and Ross Wilson?


2.) 08 Nov 2018 12:53:20
Ahhh Mr Benny boy! how are you? lol I agree with some of what you have said. I can sum up Reed's failures very simply. Sold too much quality in the first team and replaced with inferior rubbish. It really is that simple. You cannot be in the top flight and sell like we have. I appreciate our business model and understand we need to sell but not to the level we have. Reed and Southampton FC have proved the point. You cannot sell first team players to the level we have and expect to be successful in the premier league. You cannot simply rely on youth.


3.) 08 Nov 2018 13:35:05
On another note, Martin Hunter out as well. Might be a dramatic reshuffling on the horizon but as long as Hughes is still at the helm, I'm not getting my hopes up. Anyways. Anyone think we should take a punt on Ralph Hasenhuttl?


4.) 08 Nov 2018 14:33:17
Be careful what you wish for. Reed was a massive part of getting us from league 1 to European football. Can’t fault him for working with what he’s given.

Kruger has apparently been handing out bollockings all day, so can’t see him going anywhere for the time being anyway.


5.) 08 Nov 2018 15:05:57
bill green died a year ago, I’d say his position is least under threat 😂.


6.) 08 Nov 2018 15:29:29
Whoops.


7.) 08 Nov 2018 21:49:22
The club we support have been corrupt for a while and the
Club we’re in a awkward situation with chairman and vice
Chairmen alike
Kat never wanted the situation but was handed it through a bereavement and it showed
Geo has at least shown his intent for the rest of the season
Which we can atleast take a certain comfort from
On wards and up wards.


8.) 08 Nov 2018 23:36:37
Yes tick for him ( Hassenhutti) included in my top 6 (open for criticism) as probably reaching for the stars!
Raif Rangnick ( manager or DOF )
Roberto Martinez
Brendan Rodgers
Leonardo Jardim
Eddie Howe
Absolute wild cards David Wagner and Slav Jokanovic
At least we’re on the move now!
Keep On MARCHING.


9.) 09 Nov 2018 14:18:12
Our biggest task as a club is to re-coup some of the money wasted on inferior players and then target a few choice players. Personally I feel a target striker is what has been missing since Pelle left, someone who can link play and feed others in attack as well as score himself.
As important is a bedrock centre half who can boss the back 4 and cut out the crosses which have cost us dear this season.
I think that eventually the squad needs a good pruning but it cannot all be achieved at once.
I would also spend time on finding another top scout and I'd put that before a new manager at the moment.


10.) 10 Nov 2018 08:14:58
Some naive comments above: players left Southampton because the players wanted to leave. Once a player and their agent say they want out, the club can do very little about it, other than get a good price.
The fees for them are still being paid to Southampton therefore guaranteeing a steady source of income for the club over the next 3-5 years.


 

 

07 Aug 2018 17:23:42
I'm reading that Watford have bid £10m this afternoon for James Ward-Prowse.

I'm sure that figure will be re-buffed, but although he's 'one of our own' does he actually have that much influence on our team? Should we negotiate and actually let him go?

SaintBen1

1.) 07 Aug 2018 19:01:57
He could quite easily go to wolves for 1st team football cause we have so many players in that position but he is probably one our best set piece takers. Tricky one really 🤔.


2.) 07 Aug 2018 19:47:09
I would let him go for maybe £14 or £15 million if it opened up a place so that we're able to bring in a decent striker but letting fringe players go has a habit of turning round and biting us in the bum re. Jay Rodriguez who could be on his way to Wolves for a lot more than we let him go for.


3.) 07 Aug 2018 20:18:03
Hi guys I agree it's difficult 're jwp yes he has come through as a boy but being honest he has always struck me as lightweight he does deliver an occasional set piece but not consistently enough he is not big enough physically to compete as a central midfielder he like too many of our players doesn't score enough goals 10m is not enough but closer to 15m you would have to really think about that bid. I really like the lad but I cannot really see him develop to the next level and we have an excess of midfielders at this time and we desperately need a top notch forward who can look to score 15+ goals a season. I take on board the decision could come back to bite us but if a decent offer came in I would say take it. Regards vs.


4.) 07 Aug 2018 20:26:25
Jay Rodriguez has done little to justify an increase in transfer fee so that's more down to the market rather than us missing a trick.

JWP remains an enigma to me. I really want him to be good as his set places are so impressive, but he just doesn't seem to have to the speed of thought required to succeed in the premier league as a midfielder at this stage. That may be solved by getting more game time but also, it may never come for him. As it is, he has been given a decent number of opportunities to show something and I just don't think he has it in his locker. For England's sake rather than Saints, I hope I'm wrong.


For me, a sale works well for both parties but £10m is a poultry sum given they have recently sold Richarlison for £50m. They can have Davis for £10m if they want. As you say, £15m would be more tempting if it gives us time to bring in someone with experience to strengthen the team.


5.) 09 Aug 2018 13:50:01
I'm now reading that Burnley have bid £15m for JWP, and it looks close to happening.

I wouldn't bet against JWP going to Burnley and then Danny Ings coming to St. Marys for the same figure. Any thoughts?

(JWP is a midfield generalist, which probably goes against him. He can play in the Centre, but we have better. He can also play in a wing/ attanking role, but again I feel we have better options that would be ahead of him in the starting line up) .


 

 

 

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21 Nov 2018 12:35:45
What are everyone else's thoughts on a potential Martin O'Neill / Roy Keane Management team coming in for the Saints?

SaintBen1

1.) 21 Nov 2018 14:38:34
Could work. Roy would take no prisoners and I'm not sure the board is ready for him.


2.) 21 Nov 2018 15:20:10
1 goal in the Nations League and 1 win all year - wouldn’t mind a bit of Keane up the backside but definitely not O’Neill.


3.) 21 Nov 2018 17:32:23
I posted earlier on Mark Hughes, I am not sure about him, but I believe we are way up the table of chances created, but we just can’t find the net. After they get on the pitch it’s the players who are in control. Do we have the players that Mark wants, or do the board not want to spend any money. One day we might surprise someone and bag a hatful, you never know. Keep on believing, I have supported the Saints for almost sixty years, and we are higher up the league than we are for most of that time.


4.) 22 Nov 2018 07:54:46
I think that O'Neill is a decent tactician and would do well with a team full of top players but unfortunately we have a team full of average players.

{Ed001's Note - tactician? He is an abysmal tactician. What O'Neill does well is take average players and make them believe in themselves and play better as a team, at least when a club manager. His methods do not translate at all to international football because they rely on building a team as he is so inept tactically and his coaching is even worse. He is a motivator. He has always been ridiculously overrated. Even at Celtic, where his European results were bettered by Strachan after him, even though Strachan was having to strip down the squad to recover from O'Neill's overspending. It was O'Neill's tenure that put Aston Villa in trouble, he buys older players and puts them on big wages, usually never using them as he sticks with his old favourites no matter what.}


5.) 22 Nov 2018 10:54:37
Terrible idea. Its another example of backwards thinking and looking to hire someone because they have experience and I am so tired of hearing fans interested in hiring someone who will shout at players or give them a kick up the backside. That’s what so many said about MH coming in and unsurprisingly the effect has been non-existent.

We need a modern head coach, supported by a coaching staff, that can develop these players technically and mentally. That can coach effective tactics as well as improve the understanding of players in respect of their individual roles and working as part of a cohesive team. A head coach with a system and style of play that matches the aspiration of the fans and the club. Listen to Ross Barkley’s comments about the change in coaching since Sarri took over at Chelsea. A manager with a style of play is teaching the players how to perform in that system, similar to Pep and Poch and other modern coaches.

Its not enough to rely on the players to adapt and outplay an opposition if they are not properly prepared through coaching. It is not enough to believe someone shouting at the players will make them all play better. It is not enough to expect someone telling the players they’re great to improve performances either. That is football coaching of two decades ago. Time to move on.


6.) 22 Nov 2018 13:14:57
Fair comment, so figosasilva - Who would you go for?


7.) 24 Nov 2018 07:49:57
Not sure who the club have been tracking but after this afternoon at Fulham we’re probably going to find out within the coming weeks
Can’t see us getting anything really we’ve got a few injuries
And they’ve now got the tinker man who will give them a boost 100%
It’s going to be another dull afternoon I expect.


8.) 24 Nov 2018 10:24:14
I think there have been some interesting names mentioned in the posts on this topic. Hassenhutl, Lampard, we've seen Wagner and now Daniel Farke at Norwich come in from second tier in Germany and do great things.

My personal pick at the moment - I'd love to see someone like Hannes Wolf who looks an exciting young coach at Hamburger SV. He's only just started there though so think a move is unlikely.


 

 

06 Jun 2018 16:44:00
I'm just reading that Leicester have met the release clause for Jonny Evans, supposedly £3.5m which to me seems like an absolute steal for a player of his ability and experience. Can't help but think he could have been an ideal addition to the Saints backline, and for what is this days peanuts in terms of money - Thoughts?

SaintBen1

1.) 06 Jun 2018 20:14:03
I'd say its almost impossible we haven't looked at him, but I really doubt we'd get him to come here. Unfortunately after last season, we are a less attractive proposition than the likes of Leicester and Everton, and not just for financial reasons.


2.) 06 Jun 2018 21:14:36
I would imagine his age has counted against him in our thinking- the club aim still being to bring on mid-20's players with a mind to improving them and selling them on. £3.5m now is indeed cheap, but you won't profit. Contrast the 1-2 million you might get moving Evans on again to the Virgil sale and you can understand their logic!

Targets like Gibson and Mawson are strong leaders AND have future potential, so I reckon that is the direction we will be heading. I definitely think this does create the risk of a leadership void at the back again though, as we saw this season- I guess we won't know until they all line up in August.


3.) 06 Jun 2018 22:25:38
Probably 120k a week Ona 4 year contract plus 2-5 million signing on fee, bit rich for saints.


4.) 07 Jun 2018 13:28:26
Decent player but age and wage counting against him.


 

 

09 Jan 2018 11:30:13
Does anyone know how the VVD sale was structured? I've read reports today mentioning we've only received £17m upfront.

SaintBen1

1.) 09 Jan 2018 18:49:13
Like most transfers, I assume the fee is spread out over a number of years. From memory (I read an article on this a few years back), the fee is often spread out over the length of the initial contract, with deals varying as to whether this is spread evenly or front loaded. From the sound of things, VVD deal was quite 'buyer friendly' (i. e. evenly spread out rather than big initial payments), hence the high total value of 75mil.

I'm not certain of all this though, maybe eds know if this is right?

{Ed001's Note - I don't have a clue, I have little interest in this kind of thing to be honest. None of it will reach you or I, so I fail to see what difference it makes?}


2.) 09 Jan 2018 19:56:53
Maybe if you knew who I was you wouldn't be saying that.


3.) 09 Jan 2018 21:15:54
what?


4.) 09 Jan 2018 21:21:33
Just read we could be going for Kelechi Iheanacho,
Any thoughts on this personally I would be happy with this he definitely knows where the net is
Struggled at Leicester but maybe he just doesn't suit the system he's young enough and has bags of potential.


5.) 09 Jan 2018 22:25:48
Rumoured in the summer. personally think it would be a good signing. also bod I have to ask . erm what? Who are you? Is this your Friday night? Hahahahah.


 

 

14 Aug 2017 18:14:55
Not a rumour, but thought i'd mention it. While sitting in a traffic Jam yesterday afternoon in Lyndhurst, a certain Mauricio Pellegrino walked past my car looking in all directions (like he was new to the area and checking out the sights) . Maybe he's living there?

SaintBen1

1.) 14 Aug 2017 20:57:11
He was looking for Virgil.

{Ed002's Note - He is in Thunderbird 2.

https://twitter.com/WonderDogSparky/status/891327669941489664 }


2.) 15 Aug 2017 06:46:31
Thunderbirds are go Ed?

{Ed001's Note - F A B.}


 

 

11 Aug 2017 13:00:02
Ha Ha! Love the fact that Philippe Coutinho has handed in Transfer Request at Liverpool!

Obviously, if they are to follow they're own advice they MUST let him go to the 'so called' bigger club in order to fulfill his promise!?!? LOL (with Virgil Van Dijk in mind! )

SaintBen1

1.) 11 Aug 2017 16:44:35
Kloppcat been at it again by the look of it and it's backfired big style. He will now be under pressure and may walk!
Wonder what VVD thinks now if Pipco goes: could play in our favour as the red men are in a mess. Really looking forward to tomorrow. Come on Saints.


 

 

 

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11 Dec 2018 10:44:51
Yeah, I took the Dayot Upamecano rumour with a liberal pinch of salt! Can't see Saints ever paying the £30m+ fee being touted for the player, but we can hope! :-)

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03 Dec 2018 12:01:10
That would make perfect sense, Hasenhuttl seems to have good credentials and while at RB Leipzig played a very high-press attacking style - Bring it on!

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03 Dec 2018 10:14:05
I hope so, and seeing that a number of managers have had their 'odds' significantly drop recently on replacing Hughes; you'd like to think that conversations have started in the background - Who's your money on?

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30 Nov 2018 09:11:19
Totally agree about the possible struggle to even find a manager of the right calibre who wants to take on the Saints 'project', but essentially jobs only come up because of the previous managers failing, or being poached because of success - So isn't it almost a given that a manager coming into a club has to do an element of fire-fighting?

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08 Nov 2018 09:29:13
Martinez has been highlighted as an option for Real Madrid, so I think he'll have set his sights a little higher than Saints.

My worry is that if we do identify a good, young, tactically astute manager who can breath life into our attack with his great motivational outlook. If he's any good we'll struggle to hold onto him. I'd love to bring in that mould of manager who is actually a Saints fan (but I struggle to think of any experienced or successful enough? )

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07 Dec 2018 09:54:47
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07 Dec 2018 09:54:28
Realistically it was always 'have 2 players for every position', but in fact we have much more than that. What about injuries I hear you say? Well, if we do find ourselves short, what a perfect opportunity for a U23 player to make the step up and stake a claim. Happened recently with Yan Valery, and he hasn't let anyone down (could even be seen as an improvement over Cedric! )

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22 Nov 2018 13:14:57
Fair comment, so figosasilva - Who would you go for?

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08 Nov 2018 09:30:46
Or change their wage structure to be 'heavily' weighted towards a win-bonus? (say, a 30/ 70 split)

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24 Sep 2018 13:06:05
I think our recent success (not in the last 2 years! ) has also become a key reason for our failure. Other teams have cottoned on and now taken the same approach to pluck top talent from around Europe at an early age, which is making it far more difficult to get what I perceive as our top targets.

We see a lot of players 'rumored' to interest Saints, but i'm seeing us signing less and less of them. Are the likes of Clasie, Boufal, Carillo etc simply just the 'best of the rest' from our summer targets?

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